Ally have figured out how to premade again

no they really rolled undead everything because of how awesome they look in armor. honest! /s

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No they didn’t ban premades. Hence why i said “it’s time for bans”. You have exploited 2 queue systems and now a third.

Horde can’t premade stop spewing that garbage.

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First off, No one had any idea about faction balance when they made their characters. Everyone chose what they wanted to play in the dark.

Secondly, trying to argue “Horde can premade if we lived in an alternate reality, there for it is okay” doesn’t seem like a very strong argument to me.

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Blizzards stance on premades was obvious. If people still go out of their way to try to make it happen, blizzard will intervene. People don’t learn do they :man_shrugging:

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horde still has a 50% win rate even against premades. i’m sure you’re seeing that it’s soooooooo much better to nuke premades and have alliance have a 100% loss rate. do you guys even care about competition or fair play?or want a challenge?

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Oce alliance pugs still win games. Oce premades never lose because they aren’t as garbage apparently as NA.

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every streamer in the world said to roll horde for pvp and that the “real” classic experience was pvp servers. hm… i wonder…

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Also premading when you are clearly not meant to is not fair play. Stop justifying cheating.

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i only bg in retail my dude.

Gonna cite some source for that, because the most popular streamers seemed to play Alliance.

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Let me fix that for you, because we’re all gamers here, and you should know just as well that if Horde had some way to play to their advantage in PVP they will 100% do it, too. The only reason Horde didn’t do tons of AV premades is that the workarounds didn’t work with their high queue times - and they very much tried to find a way, too.

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It is good to take a step back from the mindless tribalism, and acknowledge that if it were possible for the Horde at all to premade they most certainly would. It is not a faction problem but a human problem.

Just gamers trying to find the path of least resistance.

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Aside from the multiple public polls posted on these and other forums showing horde advantage there was the fact that the majority of retail players are horde, and the fact that horde racials are more desired in pvp and streamers and other content creators were blasting that knowledge out 24/7 prior to launch. So don’t give me that.

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It’s an exploit. The fact it was fixed twice shows that it is an exploit that blizzard doesn’t want.

You are so stupid it’s funny.

Also no 1h queues on my region.

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you shouldn’t call them names. you’re entirely right of course, but don’t be rude. they want the most people, the best racials, all the wins, and are now whining about queue times.

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Ali best pvp faction, it’s just alliance players suck.

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We still dont even have good census data, let alone self-reporting polls being of dubious value.

Most people here I am assuming logged in the moment they could to create their character the moment name-reservations became available…long long before sort of faction balance data could have possibly been known.

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Bro, we had extremely accurate census data and then blizzard deliberately broke it. Polls going back for months and months before launch. Don’t even try to pretend otherwise.

Data even a few days after launch is useless btw. Most people aren’t going to reroll.

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do you think people from retail stopped playing horde with the pvp advantages we have to reroll alliance and have lolperception? compared to hardiness or wotf? honestly? you’re arguing in bad faith. everyone knew. the fact you’re an undead rogue and not a troll rogue means you knew too.

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