I could give this up.
Alliance island not so bad. I get to hear my man Cyborg from teen titans.
Really wished he said booyah there. It be icing on the cake.
Well, exiles reach gives better (and more) gear. The mount is only a ground mount (they can’t fly) and tabards are purely cosmetic.
I think they should be able to start at exiles reach as well and have their alt starting zone be the recruitment quest (like the instances but stretched out) and the mount and tabards be unlocked after or as part of the heritage sets.
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The thing that’s such a drag is that the unlocks don’t all start at level 10. Running past content quests for no rewards or XP on a level 60 toon is the opposite of fun.
I did Vulpera and Highmountain on leveling toons and that was enjoyable but I can’t get to Argus or Suramar until level 45. There’s way more than 5 levels of content so partway through I’ll drop out of Chromie time and get no XP.
All of the racial mounts are ground mounts. The Exile’s Reach gear isn’t a full set, the greens are only +2 stat lower and it also means I don’t have to run that place and can jump straight into dungeons. The tabard is absolutely a cosmetic that people use.
I don’t like the idea of the cosmetics being gated.
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it’s everything but, shoes and an offhand ( you can get a necklace, ring and cape from drops in the dungeon) where as allies are missing, helmets, necklace, rings and a cape.
I don’t see many people wear them at all.
all cosmetics are gated in some way so this point is moot, and it’s not like it’d be a long gate, it’d just be locked behind an instance that gets you to 10.
Who runs that dungeon more than once? LOL
Heirlooms exist.
Anecdotal evidence is meaningless.
I make an AR, I’m given a mount and a tabard. That’s not gated. What you want is for them to be forced into level 1 and gate the things their automatically given now.
I’ll pass, thanks.
you can get these in one dungeon…
not everyone has heirlooms and heirlooms make your reasoning against allies being instantly unlocked moot too.
I don’t want this, but you’re using unnecessary factors as a reason as to why they can’t be unlocked for everyone. I am just proposing a solution so that people who think like you will be happy.
The ARs are the time gate. You have to put in hours and lots of effort to get those free mounts and tabards.
Maybe YOU can, but I walk out with absolutely nothing every time.
No, it makes your reasoning moot, because the gear is about equal. And keeping them level 10 with a requirement of hit max level on a character and then do the AR scenario isn’t the end of the world.
Their mount and tabard aren’t. You keep moving goalposts.
I still do not agree and will not ever agree to give up my 10 levels, my mount, tabard and transmogrification greens, and the ability to never have to run Exile’s Reach again.
ANYONE can, it’s all rng. Like all loot.
How does it make my reasoning moot, when I’m in favour of making all ARs unlocked for everyone who doesn’t have them? (I’m only adding these changes because YOU complained about them being level 10 and having LESS gear (no shoulders, no helmet, no ring, no necklace and no cape.) Heirlooms make this reasoning moot, it makes all low level gear arguments moot. Void elves, Lightforged, Lightborne and high mountain taurens have been in the game long enough, there’s no real reason we should have to unlock them now. The other races can be argued that they’re too “new” but all this does is hurt them and make them not as played. (Having to unlocking them has a huge involvement as to why people won’t play them.)
They are, a new player cannot just go and get these items, as they have to make the race to get it. Therefore unlocking and making the AR is the time gate.
Then there’s nothing to debate, because I don’t think this should change either I was just giving a solution to this;
I’d play one of those orange fellas but I have no desire to sit though a years old quest line for em
I agree, after the xpac they come with they should just automatically unlock for all
I have 0 allied races and meh
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I think it is fine they are locked behind a small barrier. You need to work to be a wonderful Nightborne!!!
Or a lush. 
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Fully agree here, have a friend talking about coming back after a long break, and asked about some of the allied races, told her about the grinds, said she still wants to come back, but isn’t happy she is being limited in her choice. I mean I will gladly help her with the grinds, but still, at this point, the extra choices could be a great selling point to new and returning players.
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