Yes, because A’dal certainly lightforged or exterminated every demon or corrupted being that tried to enter Shattrath…
Or maybe, just maybe, not all Naaru are alike? Honestly, Xe’ra comes off as an outlier.
Of the Horde? Definitely not. Of new allies that they could depend upon? Absolutely.
And the Lightbound literature mentions a “Light Mother” arriving, along with the explicitly mentioned Army of the Light. It’s almost certain that events on Alt. Draenor were being driven by Xe’ra, or at least that universe’s version of her (who has no reason to be any different from ours).
Possibly. It could be another Naaru by that name, an AU Xe’ra, and we don’t have any idea of what she would necessarily be like.
I’m not saying Yrel and AU Xe’ra haven’t been set up as raid bosses for a, “The Light is Evil,” expansion, but rather, we do not KNOW what that side of the story is right now. We don’t really know much about what was going on with AU Draenor. The Mag’har think the Light was killing the planet, but from what we’ve seen, the Light has never done that before. Heck, it’s being used to heal vast swathes of the plaguelands.
From what we’ve seen, maybe. Alleria saw visions of entire planets trapped in crystal prisons by the Light.
There’s also plenty of evidence to suggest that the destabilization of Alt. Draenor had nothing to do with either of them, and was just a side effect of being a temporal anomaly with an inevitable expiration date.
Visions given to her by the Void, for one thing. Consider, again, the source. As another, even those planets were described as having kept life alive and thriving on it, in stasis.
True, but you see the point? The Mag’har are not a reliable narrator, having very obvious biases in this entire scenario.
hehe. we also couldnt have vulpera cuz horde, and we couldnt have nightborne cuz horde, and we cant have sethrak cuz horde and we cant have naga cuz horde and we cant have arrakoa cuz horde and we cant have saberon cuz horde. we also cant have san’layn cuz horde, can’t have felblood cuz horde. i’m pretty sure we couldnt have venthyr cuz horde and couldnt have necrolord cuz horde. we might get away with a night fae or a kyrian.
oh and we cant have ethereals cuz horde and cant have unshackled cuz horde. i dunno but sounds like alliance is just playing world of hordecraft. 
Hey, blue humans would be something new for us, right?
Jokes aside, I would so very happily play a Vorkai, but if we got Night Fae they’d probably be Sylvar, which aren’t awful but… I like Vorkai way more.
I dunno about you but trapped in stasis crystals doesn’t really sound like “thriving”.
Fair, but I’m not claiming that the Lightbound were destroying the planet themselves. They were clearly the dominant force though, as the broken remnants of the Mag’har were basically on the run from them. Even the ogres that were more or less enslaved by the orcs seemed to prefer them to the alternative.
just look like draenei who forgot to shave. hehe
Fixed that for you.
Take the Sethrak, Naga, Arrakoa, San’lanyn, Felblood Venthyr and whatever other unplayable race you can think of if Blizzard will let you.
I was just having a discussion about why I think saberon makes more sense as a Horde allied race but when it comes down to it, Blizzard will make them Horde, Alliance or unplayable and “the Horde” will have nothing to do with it.
I don’t know why you keep saying this.
The Mag’har were minding their own business when Yrel attacks them and they don’t have to “tell a story” when the player experiences it.
I mean, reading between the lines it seems like a not insignificant number of Mag’har willingly joined the Draenei to begin with, including Grom’s son. The Mag’har took this as an assault on their culture and started fighting, and getting wrecked because for once the Draenei DIDN’T decide to run away, but stand their ground and fight.
oh i know. thats kinda the point. lol
Another not insignificant number of them were forcibly converted, which is pretty believable considering we saw Xe’ra attempt to do the exact same thing.
Look, we can go back and forth over this forever and without more information there’s no resolution to the discussion. At the end of the day, the story can be explained for Saberon could easily go to either faction, though I personally believe they would fit in much better on the Horde.
Its not only the Draenei whom are guilty of subjugation. The Mag’har literally enslaved the Ogres, and whenever the Ogres tried to rebel, slaughtered them into submission. Even they seemed to want to ally with the Draenei.
Actually, re-reading the text… Its interesting how the Lightbound are described as having WILLINGLY gone over to the Draenei.
Between the Botani and Saberon fleeing the Mag’har on Azeroth, and everyone else either looking to join the Draenei or get away from the Mag’har… it increasingly paints a picture that doesn’t look good for the Mag’har.
So, like I said, I want to see the Draenei’s side of this story.
now these guys are cool.
Next three Allied Race pairings can be:
Saberon (Alliance), Gilgoblins (Horde)
Sethrak (Alliance), Mok’Nathal (Horde)
Botani (Alliance), Ogres (Horde)
Looks good to me, but I’d personally replace Saberon with Arrakoa. I wouldn’t raise a fuss about it though as long as I get Sethrak and Botani somewhere.
The Arrakoa model is used on Zandalari Boomkin, so that one is pretty much out at this point.
Some folk might balk at Ogres and Mok’Nathal both being added, rather than one or the other, but the only other race that came to mind for the Horde in that pairing would’ve been Lightborne Undead (like Calia), and I’d really prefer NOT to inflict that on anyone.
I really don’t get that logic but okay.
The model already has a faction alignment. So, Arrakoa would make more sense Horde. Not only that, but all the sun-worshiping/veneration cultures are also Horde. I could see them getting along with the Blood Elves surprisingly well, honestly.