Which is an advantage to the horde. Once they have the flag everyone can sit on it and cover the flag, the people recalling, and the entrance to Van.
On horde side we have to split up to do the same.
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And against PUGs horde recalled just fine after a few days. Yeah it may have taken longer against premades but most battles were against PUGs.
So youāre complaining that some of the games were losses because not everyone recalled? Well nearly all the alliance PUG games are losses no matter what people try. Itās like herding cats and itās only getting worse.
I had days where I spent 20 hrs and every single game was a premadeā¦ some days were good, others were horrible. Again group make up in a pug is hit or miss. Iāve had bad weekends where Iāve lost a whole bracket just based on what games I get ā¦ if you the guy lucky enough to only pull 2 premades all day vs the guy sitting next to you that gets all premades ā¦ its night and day! You talking difference of 20 premades vs 2k avg if your lucky ā¦ 40 k honor vs even 50% wins at 5k ā¦ 100k honor . just all based on luck of pulling premades.
Alliance won an AV I played in today.
And I havenāt won in weeks. At least you got some wins. Not for lack of trying, either. I generally go in an AV and give it 100%, defending and supporting and sticking with the group and more. None of it matters, itās always a loss.
The situation is intolerable.
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At least you have a choice to join xrealms ā¦ sorry you didnātā¦ I didnāt have that choice ā¦ Ive played 15 -20 av per day, at a hour a que for over a month to get my gainsā¦ Good luck!
I think the problem in Alliance peopleās heads is that theyāre after honor
Half the match is divided from the start on who is wants to win the game and who doesnāt
For horde thereās only one group of people, since for them 30 minute+ games are good
When AB comes out these honor grinders will GTFO and the only people left playing AV are afkers and people playing to have fun
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I want to see the screenshot lol
No screenshot but it happened. The shame is real.
First bit i agree with ā¦ no defense at a choke point is pointless. Itās why horde kept losing to the zerg as they ignored defending IB.
The second bit needs some thought. Where do we defend?
Defend SHGY ? Horde can take SHB and ignore SHGY and get to IWB. If Alliance move to defend IWB, horde get to assault SHGY. Alliance get spread too thin.
Defend the Horde perceived awesome choke ā¦the bridge? Yay we have lost two bunkers and a GY or two. Meanwhile we still have 4 towers and 3 GYās to take but need most of our team on defense. Not a chance ā¦ and the fact the base can be easily back-doored.
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I was just in an AV where the horde was inside the cave on the location where you spawn in not even trying to win the match. It wonāt let me share a screenshot here, anyone know the proper way to share screenshots on this forum? I have the link uploaded on imgur.
Just paste the link use the </> button Preformatted text
https://imgur.com/LBpcD8p
https://imgur.com/a/D3JyIFW
then they proceeded into the cave needless to say i didnāt stick around to watch it
How is that done?
Well, AFK reporting only works on true AFKers, of course.
But you can also report them for cheating. This will not remove them right away but enough reports should get their accounts looked at (I hope soā¦). I just say āpossible botā and leave it at that. If they are just being lame then that is unfortunately something Alliance seems to have to deal with more than Horde.
Supposedly premades were removing people who were active but I donāt know how, maybe if enough report them they go away no matter what? I have never seen it happen so maybe this is just a Myth, and that AFKers just came to the forums to whine about it.
Figure at least try, some matches it is horrible, 6+ doing nothing. Numbers matter in WoW PvP, though when clearly over-matched no one will care much but when it is a good AV battle, having 2-5 more active can make it so much better.
Good to hear! Keep it up allies. It will spread. Hope im not encouraging my own demise. Lol. Iām asking for it. 
In order to recall, youād have to actually have the raid make it past IB. That doesnāt happen anymore. If horde canāt understand the ridiculous positional advantage of the cave relative to IB and FW, then thereās no use arguing.
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Yes!! You all are crashing our Zerg and engaging us midfield rather than running right past us. This makes it fun for both sides. If only they had done this from the beginningā¦
LOL, this post made me lol so hardā¦ I salute you sir, keep up the good work!
Honestly the recall or reque hardly workedā¦ I would get lucky if over 5 people listened. Horde are obsessed with balinda. I argued instead of recalling , we should have sent 20 people to defense immediately at the start of a game vs a premade but nobody listened
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