Alliance abusing solo pull for drek in av

Got him to he flee towards van then he ran around and back to us - Van did NOT aggro.

Just as importantly, Hazzikostas says, is that Classic “is what it is” and that players have to take “the bad with the good”

“There is no lobbying the developer to change that because the game is what it was in 2005,” he adds. “It has to be accepted.” -

https://www.pcgamer.com/world-of-warcrafts-game-director-on-why-classic-isnt-just-a-flash-in-the-pan/

If you wanted a better Classic experience, you should have been here arguing against the “No-changers” two years ago, when the Blues were here wanting to know our opinion on what Classic should be.

Now’s the time to let Blizzard know you want an improved Classic+ server option.

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Is what it is eh?
The guards in Gadgetzan, Booty Bay, and Everlook now have a significantly longer range on their ranged attacks.

  • Developers’ note: We’re seeing some players attack others by abusing line-of-sight rules in Gadgetzan. This disruption is against our Terms of Service (as it was in 2006) and we’re taking action against players who exploit this game mechanic. While this new range differs slightly from orginal WoW 1.12, it better enforces the authentically intended consequence of PvPing in a goblin city by challenging the attacker to fight, die, or escape the guards.

So much for “is what it is back then” huh?

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Again, don’t know what to tell you. It worked fine 2 days ago.

But never mind that now. You need to stop bellyaching about being able to solo pull Drek. One defender in Drek’s room means that can’t be done. There are always defenders in Drek’s room - you guys are very predictable in that respect.

There literally is not enough time to cap a single bunker if we dont turtle… because you solo pull Drek.

And anyone that thinks the Vann pull is even remotely comparable has never tried to do it. You usually only get ONE chance, and if only ONE out of 40 people in your raid is a moron, that chance is gone. I dont need to tell you how unlikely it is to get into an AV pug without at least 1 moron.

Not even true. I haven’t been in a single AV where that’s been successful. You guys are stomping your feeties about something that rarely, if ever happens.

You must be only allowed into the bad premades then

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If they’re bad that’s fine by me. We win our matches and get max honor and that’s all I care about.

Untrue, again.

We actually had 3 on defence. They pulled drek and ignored us - we tried to reset him with snowballs and died.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/292545107490504704/661233746497765400/unknown.png

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Addons like CensusPlusClassic told us that the populations on basically every pvp server were 60/40 or worse. You should have seen this coming within the first 24/48 hours of classic going live if you checked the sites.

Claiming that the PvE servers which are alliance dominated were going to make a difference and balance out queue times was just living in denial. They rolled on PvE because they don’t enjoy / want to pvp.

Congrats! enjoy having far superior racials, and sitting in a queue for 45 minutes so a pre-made can stomp you.

It’s kind of bitter sweet karma for having 10 to 20 horde camping every boat and flight master in the game making it unplayable for alliance for a month.

Also, horde have been doing the same thing with snowball pulling.

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Do you realize you’re talking to other living, breathing people who are also trying to play a game for fun? I’m sorry if some event in your life has made you this cynical and hateful but please take it to therapy and not the WoW forums. Does it not make sense to you that continuing to allow a majority of their playerbase (horde being more popular overall than alliance) to have an unfun experience will lead to a loss in revenue? A consistent unbalanced experience is something the developers will either have to find a way to correct or it will have a large negative impact on the game as a whole.

It’s kind of bitter sweet karma for having 10 to 20 horde camping every boat and flight master in the game making it unplayable for alliance for a month.

So because on some horde-dominated servers alliance got camped for a few weeks after a poorly planned PvP system implementation you feel that every horde player should have an overall negative game experience for the remainder of the game’s lifespan? Do those of us who were on balanced or alliance dominated servers get some sort of free pass here? Did the devs not speed out the release of BGs specifically to correct this problem that was negatively affecting a large portion of their playerbase? Do you not feel that eventually they will have to take action in this instance as well?

I think, more than anything, the reaction from some alliance players is what makes this situation awful. Please enjoy your free wins while they last but don’t pretend other people who happened to choose a different faction than you deserve to have a negative play experience.

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Everyone who reads the forums or checks websites knew the vast majority of pvp servers were unbalanced from day 1 or 2. Strange, the horde didn’t mind making the trip from ironforge to dire maul a 2.5 hour corpse warping experience for alliance. You couldn’t even graveyard rez as they were all camped. And several servers died and turned into pve servers as a result, others went from 60/40 to 70/30 or 80/20 as a result of many alliance quitting. And horde all vehemently defended the grief fest. Yes, blizzard will lose MORE money because of this, as they’re already losing millions a month from the players who quit during P2, and should have had faction based queues. But they’d probably have to re-launch new servers with faction balancing queues from the start if they want to do it now.

Horde all saw the servers were unbalanced, and didn’t re-roll alliance despite the fact we all knew about the faction balance by the end of the first week. I specifically rolled alliance because I saw the horde was over populated so I figured I’d have more pvp and shorter queue times. What I didn’t realize is that horde will ONLY 3v1 or worse you in wpvp. And are “cynical and hateful” enough they’ll kill your lv30 alt trying to level with their lv60s endlessly just to act like sociopaths because they’re not even getting honor.

If by “SOME” you mean the VAST MAJORITY of pvp servers. Look up the threads from 1 month ago. Go to youtube and see how bad it was for the majority of us.

People should have been re-rolling to alliance by day 3 after server launch to balance their factions if they actually cared about having a good pvp experience. But they wouldn’t because of MIN-MAX GOTTA HAVE THE BEST RACIALS.

I did my part and my brother and I looked at server stats and rolled alliance in classic to help balance our server despite the fact we wanted horde pvp racials. My warlock is paying the price for it as over 50% of the horde on my server are undead, so my fears are useless. And the ones who aren’t undead are mostly orc warriors who are basically immune to fear & seduction & 50% immune to stun with talents/racials/items. (and that doesn’t take into account engineering trinkets) I have to spend the majority of my gold buying consumables and engineering items to counteract racial advantages in pvp.

But at least I get to pvp now, and not just corpse warp around the world.

Open world pvp made many of the servers so lopsided that blizzard can’t salvage them anymore due to thousands of alliance quitting. They’d have to relaunch new servers with faction queues.

Are you so dense that you cannot understand that you are not the only player … So your one experience on one realm has nothing to do with MILLIONS of players over MANY MANY realms … So you pick a PVP server knowing that Horde pvp and roll alliance then get mad that horde camp you on a pvp server … then think its justified that every single player in the game pays for long ques and cheating as payback for you … Priceless kid

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So are you so dense that you cannot understand that if you roll on the over-populated faction. Then make the under-populated factions life miserable by making the game completely unplayable for them, they’ll quit playing making the server more unbalanced. Then when BG queues come out you’ll have nobody to play against making super long queues?

…Priceless kid

And if by “your one experience” you mean HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE’S EXPERIENCES, then I’d say your statement was correct. You can check out all the forum posts and youtube videos from 1 month ago. We’ve had entire servers die and become PvE with only horde players left. And I’m pretty sure it’s not because of my 1 individual experience.

… Again priceless critical thinking skills you have there kid

Want to fix the problem instead of being whiney about people pointing out your obvious lack of critical thinking skills and foresight which I would expect from a 12 year old child? Re-roll alliance like you should have done by day 3 of servers going live and try to be a part of the solution. I did my part.

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Again your one server means nothing … so by your rights since on my server a alliance group of 40 sat in ORG all day every day for weeks farming Horde … I shoulda quit … HA HA HA HA … what a idiot you are!

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I’m not sure if you actually think you sound intelligent with that post. But you’re only proving my point. Please come back when your reading comprehension skills have improved.

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So you’re one of the lowlife cheaters on the Alliance taking advantage. I hope your account gets locked, scumbag!

So many orc’s crying in here about bugs when they’re making use of one of the largest game breaking bugs in the game with resisted stuns putting stun on the DR table.

Huh-freakin-larious

So? Blizzard developers also defended Arcane torrent for 10 years, AND the removal of flying. Enough whining got both changed. Sometimes even the developers get overruled. Other times they realize they made a mistake, not that they ever admit it of course >.>

Just start temp banning for queue exploits. The alliance trash are literally exploiting the queu system to get a premade in a bg where they specifically disabled raid group queuing.

As far as solo pulling bosses, both factions can do it and it should be nerfed for both factions. Marshals /war masters should all link to their respective bosses, should ALL leash together back to their room if attempting to pull them out, and any dead ones should respawn immediately if they are not all killed in the one pull.

Meanwhile, the terrain exploits to back door dun Baldir should be fixed, fishing should be disabled (if I can’t level my alt in the gnoll cave because of post classic launch fixes, there damn well shouldn’t be fishing for the same exact reason)…

Congrats I just fixed av… (except the queu times, those would actually get worse from alliance premaders getting temp banned and further lowering the pool of players) but I actually agree with the alliance on that, it’s not their fault tons of people prefer the good faction… It’s blizzard’s for not trying to balance the populations at launch, and for listening to the morons who thought Xrealm bgs where a good idea when they’ve been proven on retail to simply make faction balance worse over time.