No no, Jab Jab Uplift
And nothing on Guardian. A lot of feedback can also be a big sign of something not working right too.
Does anyone else think monk should have Feign Death?
Monks have been doing that for a few years now. Why do you think Blizzard hasn’t paid attention to them?
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I lol’d … Then I cried.
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Dead inside.
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It’s odd how they seemed to have spent so many resources on specs that didn’t even want that much attention. They spent a lot of time messing with balance druids who didn’t want a re-work. They spent a lot of dev time giving holy paladins back holy power and many of them don’t seem to want it.
Instead they could have brought back oldschool chi and mana tea to MW where more of its players actually would have wanted the changes.
They’ve allocated a lot of their class dev time to places where it wasn’t even wanted.
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I wouldn’t just quit because of the class not being super top #1 in beta right now it’s mid-tier. Have to see legendary powers and other items to see how it really plays out. I guess everyone gets enjoyment in a different way. Despite the problems the class has, it’s still the most I have fun playing WoW. I could just switch to a rogue and be top dps but it’s so boring. I would rather just play a class I find most enjoyable.
WW/MW might of been Mid before the nerfs. Even at that, how do we know what the classes true power is? There are soooo many bugs right now. Chi-Ji alone has so many bugs right now. SEF has always had bugs. The covenants don’t interact with mastery when they should be. the list
Also WW starting mid is good-ish. Because WW can’t scale correctly it will only go down. I would love if WW actually could stay mid or even higher for an entire expansion.
I’m not going to quit yet, but it is crossing my mind for the first time since BC. I’ve never quit because I thought my class was going to be not fun.
It’s getting sad when even preach and fin agree. There is never a situation where you would bring a WW monk over another dps say a Ret pally.
17:11 mark in the video
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i found it hilarious that Fin actually considered WW because it was “blasting so much damage” but I guess he just isn’t familiar with how Blizzard “balance” Monks and doesn’t see that the only changes WW is going to get is to fix bugs which will make the spec do less damage and then slap them with a % nerf before Mythic opens just to be sure.
- DK’s complain and get a change reverted in 24 hours along with a blue post.
- Rdruids are the kings of M+ and are getting significantly stronger in SL in both base toolkit and relatively very powerful borrowed power.
- DH’s get their damage moved from passives into abilities and then buffed.
- Shamans get their hand held by the devs as they make multiple iterative changes based on feedback and Blizz are even willing to go back on their design choices this late in the dev cycle which is unprecedented.
- Shadow Priests get an entire rework with overwhelmingly positive feedback and further talent iteration and buffs upon that.
WW/MW get told their bugs are going to get fixed in the only blue post they’ve gotten for the whole development cycle which was a lie because the bugs aren’t even fixed.
So the worst performing raid healer and bottom tier M+ healer is getting nothing in an expansion where other healers are getting seriously positive additions to their kits which equates to a MW nerf.
The worst performing DPS with no other DPS spec to change into is getting nothing in an expansion where other melee DPS are getting significant buffs and positive reworks.
I WONDER WHERE WW AND MW WILL BE IN SHADOWLANDS?!?!?!? (The bin/benched/rerolled/unsubbed).
Actual comical balancing from Blizzard.
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To be fair on some of your points:
That’s true ish for Havoc but VDH got hit pretty hard
Yes, but also Shaman were a meme for almost all of BFA so i think they deserve at least some love
Were also a meme that blizzard just buffed into relevance.
The rest i agree with though. Though MW is probably still likely to outperform holy Priest for M+ at least.
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I mean this isn’t a good one, we been pretty low compared to everyone since day 1.
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Yah WW hasn’t been ace. But all 3 shaman specs were pretty much broken for most of the first year, and wasn’t really ever fixed just buffed massively into relevance.
Ww sucked after the first 2 months of bfa, mw hasn’t been much better. So sorry another spec or class and how their doing has no bearing on another, but shamans were doing better than monks all xpac.
It’s not like they have only limited resources to work on 1 thing at a time. Yeah we are viable, but just barely.
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I wanna see some BIG BIG changes this week Blizzard. (week 9/16)
I want BIG bug fixes.
I want to see the nerfs to Chi-Ji last week be reverted!
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This is true for many classes, but especially for Monk. Throughout the last few expansions, specifically Legion, they added some really cool abilities, passive and active, for the Monk.
Then they removed them.
Then they bring them back in another expansion. If you want Monks to have those abilities, and you think it’d make a more interesting experience for the players… why not just give them the abilities as baseline, and come up with new ideas for your new content?
Editing to add an example: The Emperor’s Capacitor, a Legendary item in Legion, removed in BfA, and then added back again for Shadowlands? Just make the ability passive for all Monks… When else would I ever cast Crackling Jade Lightning?
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Well Ele/Enh were doing better than WW (but that’s tuning, they didn’t necessarily “feel” better). Monk at least had BRM that were strong all Xpac though.
But also hard agree i don’t know why monks have to wait multiple weeks for their “It’s coming next week!” fixes. Really poor.
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except raids only need 2 tanks. This is only really helpful for dungeons, but even then I play monk to play WW.
The first 2 months for WW was a huge rollercoaster and didn’t feel good.
We didn’t feel to good to have to make sure to break karma into tod or else you weren’t doing any dmg.
The gcd change killed us more than a lot of others because we have a checklist of a burst cycle.
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That GCD change might be the worst thing in history. I’m having a hard time thinking of something worse tbh. At least we finally got Mana Tea off the GCD. Only took how many years.
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Invoke Chi-Ji, the Red Crane, and become immune to movement impairing effects for 25 sec. Chi-Ji kicks up Gusts of Mists with your Physical abilitiesSummon an effigy of Chi-Ji that kicks up a Gust of Mist when you Blackout Kick, Rising Sun Kick, or Spinning Crane Kick, healing up to 2 allies for (0.1% of Spell power), and reducing the cost and cast time of your next Enveloping Mist by 33%, stacking 3 times.stacking.
Chi-Ji’s presence makes you immune to movement impairing effects.
Nerf?