Yeah, microtransaction riddled games are super fun. Yup, superb logic OP.
That's my point: if they're not fun for you, don't play them. It's that simple. Find a game that IS fun, that doesn't cause you to fall back on... a poor attempt at a sarcastic reply.
On a different note, has anyone said anything about microtransactions? Or is that you just taking a sky-is-falling approach?
11/04/2018 08:29 AMPosted by
Rechab No THEY'RE doing it wrong.
"Who is more foolish? The fool or the fool who follows him?"
- Obi-Wan Kenobi.
They may be doing it wrong. But again, my point is missed: if they're doing it wrong and you keep going along with it, YOU are ALSO doing it wrong. There are... thousands of other games out there. Go play one where they're not doing it wrong.
11/04/2018 08:31 AMPosted by
Ojomon OP has never been passionate about anything it seems.
I have many passions. WoW is a passion, I've not missed a single day of logging in in 4 years. But the reality is that if you're so passionate about a VIDEO GAME, that things you can't change and business decisions made by the company producing the video game are making you actually, legitimately, honestly angry... you need to step away for a while. Find something else you're passionate about. It's a big world out there, far bigger than you mom's basement.
11/04/2018 08:34 AMPosted by
Awby I hope that 5167 post history doesn't have a single post that's upset about anything that's ever happened in this game.
Upset about stuff in the game? Sometimes; I really dislike it, for instance, when you fight a rare or a named quest mob, kill it, and then it repops and attacks you while you're eating or healing or looking at loot or resting your fingers or whatever. But never have I ever gotten legitimately, actually, seriously angry about video game stuff. Video games are for fun; if I'm not having fun, I don't play.
11/04/2018 08:35 AMPosted by
Orthane You're right, but it's fun that I have to pay real money for so if I hate it, I'm going to voice my dissatisfaction.
Or... alternately... stop paying for it. Continuing to pay for something that you hate is the epitome of idiocy. I mean, come on, man. "OH GOD I HATE THIS, SO I'M GOING TO KEEP PAYING FOR IT!"
That's so ludicrous.
You can white knight their bad decisions and terrible corporate culture until the forums go free to play for all I care, I am moving on.
English must not be your primary language; I'm not white-knighting anything. I didn't say anything in favor - or against - any decisions they have made or are planning to make. I'm pointing the finger at YOU: if YOU don't like it, move on.
I'm glad to see that you're making the right choice for you.
you're not any better than anyone else
Oh, but I am. I am inherently a better person than most of the people on GD.
I agree...this xpac sucks. Nothing to do other than copy and paste until your fingers bleed.
Yeah, microtransaction riddled games are super fun. Yup, superb logic OP.
That's my point: if they're not fun for you, don't play them. It's that simple. Find a game that IS fun, that doesn't cause you to fall back on... a poor attempt at a sarcastic reply.
On a different note, has anyone said anything about microtransactions? Or is that you just taking a sky-is-falling approach?
11/04/2018 08:29 AMPosted by
Rechab No THEY'RE doing it wrong.
"Who is more foolish? The fool or the fool who follows him?"
- Obi-Wan Kenobi.
They may be doing it wrong. But again, my point is missed: if they're doing it wrong and you keep going along with it, YOU are ALSO doing it wrong. There are... thousands of other games out there. Go play one where they're not doing it wrong.
11/04/2018 08:31 AMPosted by
Ojomon OP has never been passionate about anything it seems.
I have many passions. WoW is a passion, I've not missed a single day of logging in in 4 years. But the reality is that if you're so passionate about a VIDEO GAME, that things you can't change and business decisions made by the company producing the video game are making you actually, legitimately, honestly angry... you need to step away for a while. Find something else you're passionate about. It's a big world out there, far bigger than you mom's basement.
11/04/2018 08:34 AMPosted by
Awby I hope that 5167 post history doesn't have a single post that's upset about anything that's ever happened in this game.
Upset about stuff in the game? Sometimes; I really dislike it, for instance, when you fight a rare or a named quest mob, kill it, and then it repops and attacks you while you're eating or healing or looking at loot or resting your fingers or whatever. But never have I ever gotten legitimately, actually, seriously angry about video game stuff. Video games are for fun; if I'm not having fun, I don't play.
11/04/2018 08:35 AMPosted by
Orthane You're right, but it's fun that I have to pay real money for so if I hate it, I'm going to voice my dissatisfaction.
Or... alternately... stop paying for it. Continuing to pay for something that you hate is the epitome of idiocy. I mean, come on, man. "OH GOD I HATE THIS, SO I'M GOING TO KEEP PAYING FOR IT!"
That's so ludicrous.
You can white knight their bad decisions and terrible corporate culture until the forums go free to play for all I care, I am moving on.
English must not be your primary language; I'm not white-knighting anything. I didn't say anything in favor - or against - any decisions they have made or are planning to make. I'm pointing the finger at YOU: if YOU don't like it, move on.
I'm glad to see that you're making the right choice for you.
you're not any better than anyone else
Oh, but I am. I am inherently a better person than most of the people on GD.
No, youâre just astroturfing and telling paying customers that they shouldnât complain, they should shut it and move on.
Donât worry, youâre going to get your wish.
I get where you're coming from, but if we took everything with a smile and never offered stark criticism, I think things would be in a pretty rough place right now (much more so than they are).
Many people are emotionally unstable, and bear their fangs when allowed to be anonymous online. Ignore these people.
I'll just go ahead and drop this again:
https://newzoo.com/insights/articles/global-games-market-reaches-137-9-billion-in-2018-mobile-games-take-half/
Not that it will matter; the typical WoW/Diablo player seems to think a business exists to make only the products that they themselves care for and nothing else, bottom line be damned.
Players have given Blizzard a lot of money. And vastly more time.
Players are therefore invested in Blizz's decision making snafus because they don't like Blizz screwing up the very thing they've been giving them lots of money to make and lots of time to play.
And for a lot of players, this game *is* the escape from the stresses of the workaday world, so cut your fellow players some slack, OP.
If you are actually getting legitimately upset over video games or the company that produces them; if you are actually feeling anger over the announcement of a mobile version of a long-running game; if you are truly unhappy with some of the systems implemented in the latest expansion of another long-running game, or anything else like that...
...you're doing it wrong. Video games are for fun, and the companies that make them are supposed to be providing entertainment. If the games aren't fun for you, and the companies aren't providing entertainment to you, move along! They're obviously going after a different market than you represent. It is not worth your time to be so unhappy over such a meaningless thing.
I have news for you, quite a few people are starting to move on from Blizz recently and all of it is self inflicted on their part.
OP is trying hard for his Christmas bonus from Blizzard.
No, youâre just astroturfing and telling paying customers that they shouldnât complain, they should shut it and move on.
Wow, the ability to read English is sorely lacking in this thread.
I never said anything about not complaining. I'm only talking about actual, legitimate, for-reals-unhealthy anger and frustration. Complain all you want, but if you're teeth-gritting and fist-balling, and actually getting angry - as I've seen many times over the last couple of days - that's bad. And you should step away, for your own sake.
11/04/2018 08:59 AMPosted by
Kooka I get where you're coming from, but if we took everything with a smile and never offered stark criticism
Thank you, but again, I'm not talking about criticism. Criticize all you want, just be healthy about it. Actual, for-real anger and frustration and the like over a video game is not worth it.
If you are actually getting legitimately upset over video games or the company that produces them; if you are actually feeling anger over the announcement of a mobile version of a long-running game; if you are truly unhappy with some of the systems implemented in the latest expansion of another long-running game, or anything else like that...
...you're doing it wrong. Video games are for fun, and the companies that make them are supposed to be providing entertainment. If the games aren't fun for you, and the companies aren't providing entertainment to you, move along! They're obviously going after a different market than you represent. It is not worth your time to be so unhappy over such a meaningless thing.
You're making entirely too much sense, and I'm going to throw a temper tantrum because of it.
Video games are for fun, and the companies that make them are supposed to be providing entertainment.
Yeah, microtransaction riddled games are super fun. Yup, superb logic OP.
WoW has a cash shop and level boosts. #atleastyoutried
no...its very valid for people to be upset and angry over a game, that many have invested a lot of money and time into enjoying the game, story, lore, only to have it turned into something no one asked for.
I'll just go ahead and drop this again:
https://newzoo.com/insights/articles/global-games-market-reaches-137-9-billion-in-2018-mobile-games-take-half/
Not that it will matter; the typical WoW/Diablo player seems to think a business exists to make only the products that they themselves care for and nothing else, bottom line be damned.
Keep settling for less and weâll ALL be at the bottom. You settle and concern yourself with poor Blizzardâs billions.
Iâm buying an Xbox and going to play some games that are actually designed to entertain me, rather than pad some companyâs bottom line.
Ok so you announce to a crowd of PC gamers that the next version of their favourite game will be on mobile phones only, and you expect them to cheer and be happy about it?
What's wrong with you?
I agree that was handled poorly. What should have been done is they should have created DI for both platforms. I get why they did it, because mobile is the wave of gaming for the masses as we go forward. But still there are a dedicated crowd of PC gamers still me being one of them. If they announced the next xpansion was going mobile and not on pc i would flip out too.
Yes the mobile game market is skyrocketing and everyone wants in on it, i fear soon pc gaming will be obsolete and no one will make games for pc anymore. We have a right to be upset, but that rage is misplaced. Yes blizzard should be held accountable for this snafu, but overall the problem is on the people that want mobile games and have no interest in pc games. That is the shift in demographics and there really isnt anything we can do about it. Companies will eventually go that direction because yes the money is there.
Rage hate and spewing vile comments and crazy conspiracies is not how to handle this. Yes be mad, but do it in a way they will listen and work with you. Maybe that way both platforms can be accommodated.
Handled poorly indeed! They obviously weren't prepared, they seemed like idiots up there. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmkHAlhCvWg
PC is obsolete?!? Yes mobile is everywhere, but when I get home from work and want to play a video game, you think I will put aside my 50'' monitor, with mouse and keyboard, sound system + sub woofer, video card, 2 Tera of data available for content and visual effect to play on a tiny 5'' screen, with 8G of data (maybe 2 left) taping with the tip of my finger? How is this even comparable?
The game experience is absolutely not the same, they had their right to be bummed out.
11/04/2018 08:35 AMPosted by
Orthane You're right, but it's fun that I have to pay real money for so if I hate it, I'm going to voice my dissatisfaction. Especially since the gaming industry is so massive and it's one of the leaders in entertainment.
I will get upset and angry when something I've loved for a long time is reduced to nothing more than a cash grab.
PS: Get over yourself and stop telling people how they should be thinking.
Could always buy tokens if youâre that dissatisfied.
11/04/2018 08:40 AMPosted by
Maryine I'm sick of this 'high and mighty' attitude which is basically saying "If you don't feel like I want you to feel, you're wrong!"
At no point am I saying that.
11/04/2018 08:40 AMPosted by
Maryine you aren't allowed to complain.
I am not saying that, either.
11/04/2018 08:40 AMPosted by
Maryine There's absolutely nothing wrong with being upset about something you're passionate about.
Please go back and read what I said. There's a difference with being a little upset and "actually getting legitimately upset", "actually feeling anger", and "truly unhappy". Like I said earlier, I get a little frustrated when a named quest mob or a rare re-pops after I've killed it while I'm resting or whatever. But I don't go around cursing Blizzard for it, demanding to know what the hell is wrong with the crappy game, gnashing my teeth, and the like.
Video games are for fun, and the companies that make them are supposed to be providing entertainment.
OHBOY I sure love games that attaches my credit card to it for every footstep I take! Ohhhh maaann, paying $10 for a mana refill is exciting, I usually just waste my mana and use my credit card again because gosh darn it, that's what fun is.
Ohhhh maaann, paying $10 for a mana refill is exciting
Hey, whatever floats your boat, man. That's not my idea of a good time.
What, I thought we were quoting out of context to make the quoted line look like something it's not?
I mean, really, if you can't understand that I'm saying if the game is not something that you like then you shouldn't play it, I don't know what to tell you. I wasn't saying that Diablo mobile is going to be fun, I wasn't saying that microtransactions are all that, or anything like that. I'm saying that you're in control: if you don't like a game, don't play it. And I'm also saying that if you're actually getting legitimately angry and HULK SMASH upset, go do something else.
Ohhhh maaann, paying $10 for a mana refill is exciting
Hey, whatever floats your boat, man. That's not my idea of a good time.
What, I thought we were quoting out of context to make the quoted line look like something it's not?
I mean, really, if you can't understand that I'm saying if the game is not something that you like then you shouldn't play it, I don't know what to tell you. I wasn't saying that Diablo mobile is going to be fun, I wasn't saying that microtransactions are all that, or anything like that. I'm saying that you're in control: if you don't like a game, don't play it. And I'm also saying that if you're actually getting legitimately angry and HULK SMASH upset, go do something else.
Thatâs too logical and easy.
I mean, really, if you can't understand that I'm saying if the game is not something that you like then you shouldn't play it, I don't know what to tell you. I wasn't saying that Diablo mobile is going to be fun, I wasn't saying that microtransactions are all that, or anything like that. I'm saying that you're in control: if you don't like a game, don't play it. And I'm also saying that if you're actually getting legitimately angry and HULK SMASH upset, go do something else.
You're right, we shouldn't be angry if blizzard hyped up a diablo release for literal months before hand about this grandiose, epic, amazing, big, multiplayer installment only to turn out to be some diablo 3 reskin of a chinese mobile game made with microtransactions everywhere in mind.
As an analogy, going to a restaurant to order some high quality food but served some microwaved hot dogs.
Surely we should just content about this food.