Seeing him within maldraxxus I wonder if there will be any interactions between him and Paladin players with the Ashbringer itself? Would be very interesting to see.
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Thatâd be awesome! I wouldnât put my money on it, butâŠ
Hey, they âblink and youâll miss itâ cameoâd Sharasâdal, and Knaifu got her own questline. She specifically calls out priests when they do the quests. SoâŠ
I wouldnât be surprised. I give it 50/50 chance.
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Because honestly, this needs to be a thing 
been a big fan of his lore before they retconned (Infinite Dragonflight) his time as the Scarlet Highlord
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Itâd be a missed opportunity!
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The original Mograine lore I felt was tainted by the Infinite Dragonflightâs tampering or attempt to tamper with Old HIllsbrad. I always wondered if Thrall wasnât the primary target and it was in fact Mograine himself? So much has went about to corrupt the Scarlet Crusade as an entity it would make some sense even if the Infiniteâs had a hand in it.
In terms of Cosmic lore we know for sure there is a Time War going on, tbh I think the Timewalkers are almost like the Men In Black and Chromie is actually a Recruiter for them in some capacity or our version of the Doctor per se.
Ultimately I want them to explore this more and Ret Paladins who have followed this for a long time have a big reason to wanna work with Necrolords because of Mograine because my god Uther for Kyrian is just holy fk tempting.
Story wise I wanna see more of Alexandros before Launch because holy hell I want something to come of this.
so not only are you a mhp; youâre also a scarlet fan?
this is gonna be a great thread.
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I met a dude at Blizzcon 2 years back wearing the scarlet tabard and my fat self was like: OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG and we jumped together in excitement.
Dead serious though the evidence needs to be looked at: Old Hillsbrad was tampered by the Infinite Dragonflight and I feel it affected Alexandros somehow.
Gold dragon flight is aware of when and how the infinites are messing with time. they didnât send us to deal with mograine, so mograine wasnât the intended target.
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Nawwww, people believed that Thrall was the intended target via the events. But that is what they want you to believe. Why else have the Mograine/Ashbringer event there?!!?
itâs an easter egg.
At this point, I do not believe it is just an Easter Egg. Im waiting for this day to come and frankly when it does imma laugh so damn hard because I saw it years back. Mograine was the target.
Itâs not a matter of belief, itâs confirmed by Nozdurmo that the Infinite Dragonflight was trying to kill Thrall throughout the timeline. Itâs a rather large part of the Twilight of the Aspect Book; the Infinite Dragons were hunting him.
Plus, the Infinites are trying to kill Thrall in Old Hillsbrad. Mograine isnât touched.
The Ashbringer Old Hillsbrad event isnât canon. Itâs an easter egg.
Iâm just tinfoil hat about things. I mean: Nozdormu could have been wrong or lied or was deceived himself.
Thrall may have been the main target, but its like traveling back in time, and swatting a mosquito. That mosquito isnât going to lay eggs now. Guess what Alexander the Great doesnât get bit and contract malaria, thus his empire survives longer then it otherwise would have.
Time travel gets weird. We did kill quite a few guards, soldiers, etc along with the infinites. That has to have some repercussions, unless they were all intended to die.
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Canonically this Artifact is as good as a butter knife. Theyâre all pretty much ââdeadââ after using them to cleanse Sargerasâ sword.
If a shaman wields Sharasâdal in Nazjatar, Queen Azshara comments on it. So the idea of Alexandros Mograine commenting on a paladin player having Ashbringer is actually quite reasonable. Iâd be more surprised if he doesnât.
I just donât see the point. Before and after the alteration to the timeline, Mograine didnât really do anything worth interfering with. If itâs about the Ashbringer, Tirion would be the more logical target since he achieved more wielding the Ashbringer. Unless they are trying to prevent the Ashbringerâs creation, in which Old Hillsbrad is a dumb moment to try that, theyâd be better off doing it before Mograine purifies the crystal.
Itâd be like arguing the Infiniteâs real target was Nathanos! Because heâs also in Old HIllsbrad! And stopping Arthas at Stratholme couldâve prevented him from being rasied as undead. Just because you can tie a character to the Caverns of Time events, doesnât mean it makes any logical sense for them to be involved.
Besides, again, the Ashbringer event in Old Hillsbrad isnât canon. So thereâs nothing to interfer with in Old Hillsbrad to begin with, in regards to Mograine.
I get you like Alexandros, but itâd be a silly retcon to suddenly make the Infintesâ target him. There are characters that it makes far more sense for them to actually be targetting. The goal of the Infinites was to cause the Hour of Twilight, and killing Thrall aided that. Mograine had no impact both before and after his scarlet origin was retconned.
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I completely forgot about that, so I guess itâs possible
Why not then?
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I base some of my logic here on the original idea behind the Corrupted Ashbringer and the Scarlet Crusade. How that his 2nd son was in Outland and in order to reforge or purify the blade or even make a new one we had to go there. It goes back to the original idea that there was supposed to be class legendaries and there was a story in the works that just got âretconnedâ
In BC we then see the event making the Crystal and then later on we get the comic that did the retcon.
Hell even the original Dreadnaught gear was made for him and was built around him being the Scarlet Highlord.
So on one hand: no it was just a retcon
My tinfoil head self: Naw it was an Infinite conspiracy and the fact we have a wide scale Time War going off in the background I have to wonder how much of a threat would the Scarlet Crusade have become if they rallied around a new Ashbringer and aided to the might of Azeroth.
By lore purposes & standards, it seems like story-wise Azerothâs Champions (the players, etc) hang up their artifact weapons after Legion.