AI: The Future of Roleplaying?

Creativity is the avenue of humanity, not technology.

An AI story is not a story. It is a collage of ideas pieces together from trained data into a barely coherent summary at best and a fragmented mess at worst.

As someone who has been writing since I was like, 8 years old, no. AI is not RP, and AI is not writing. AI is not creative.

AI analyzes inputted keywords and returns keywords that it recognizes as probable similar variables arranged in what it considers an approximately similar way without the deeper reflection and nuance that a human mind will consider during a writing project.

Writing has a piece of the soul of the author implanted in it from the very first word, AI doesn’t have a soul and never will.

#keephumanityincreativity

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The AI is in the room with us!

:dracthyr_uwahh_animated:

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Putting it out there that any actual competent roleplayer would block anyone for using AI in any aspect of roleplaying itself.

It’s a creative thing, having a computer spit out stolen material because you can’t think for yourself is pathetic and it’d be auto-block permanently from me and anyone who’s a true roleplayer.

If that makes me a gatekeeper then by the gods I’ll gatekeep like a champ.

All I will say on this topic. Muting and moving on, the fact that this is even a debate is ridiculous.

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No they wont. You might. But not everyone will. Also, gatekeeping is good. We should gatekeep harder.

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Technically true. The Earth isn’t running out of water. All of the Earth’s water is locked in, it’s not leaving (anytime soon anyway), and new water isn’t being created.
However… And this might shock you to learn… But Earth isn’t just a fish bowl that you can fill up with water and call it good. It’s got, you know, those things called like, continents, and islands, and oceans, and rivers, and lakes, and man-made reservoirs, and mountains, and weather systems, and clouds, and rain, and pollution, and salt, and heat, and cold, and you know all of those other things that make up a planet.

It’s also got cities and towns and villages and industrial factories and infrastructure and water treatment planets and all that jazz.

Earth won’t run out of water in the lifetimes of our great great great great grandchildren, but certain areas WILL run out of access to usable water. We know this to be true because certain areas of the world literally have run out of water.

Like seriously, do you lack any sense of nuance or complexity? Do you just see Earth as a giant fish bowl that stores water you can just scoop out with a spoon or something?

im not reading all that, but ai sucks.

A ladle, no? So the salt falls out

AI slop.

More than a few, and when I notice AI language being used that’s when I immediately blacklist that player and refuse to engage with them.

Because it is. Generative AI tools are always wrong to use, especially ones available to the public, because they scrape the internet for the data they train off of and always without permission, meaning that AI tools are essentially trained off of stolen copyrighted works.

Do not… ever… compare AI tools to TRP.

TRP is an addon, it allows you to create profiles, yes. But it does NOT generate anything for you. It does not ā€˜steal’ anything from other roleplayers or authors. You have to input everything for your character unless YOU are stealing from other authors and if that’s the case? Dishonor! Dishonor on your whole family! Dishonor on you! Dishonor on your cow!

Yes, 100%, this is not debatable.

No, it is not. Not even close. It is negating the entire creative process. You’re not being creative, which is what roleplaying is all about. You are participating in theft and showing that you are creatively bankrupt.

It will make roleplaying feel cheap if it becomes common place, because at that point we’re not roleplaying with human beings, we’re roleplaying with machines prompted by the creatively bankrupt.

Don’t use AI in roleplaying.
You will be caught.
You will be blacklisted.

End of story.

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Why? When you can find plenty of online resources to help inspire you that aren’t generated from AI. Here’s a really good one.

https://paizo.com/products/btpy8x64?Pathfinder-Roleplaying-Game-Ultimate-Campaign

You can buy the PDF version of this for $19.99 and the first chapter of it is all about character creation, it even includes various dice roll tables once you’ve chosen your character’s race, allowing a roll of the dice to determine your characters backstory, which you can tweak if you don’t like what you get. For example, here’s a character that I just created using dice rolls for a Gnome Rogue.

A Gnome who was born and raised in the forests of Elwynn by two parents with a single sibling who looked after you as the elder sibling always does, your life was hard, as living in the lower class of society always is. Your parents were peasants, an ordinary position among those of lesser station, but the hard work they endured kept them honest and instilled in them, and you, a deep sense of humility. Yet among the lower class there is always someone looking to take advantage of those who they feel deserve it, and you were no different, betrayed by a person you considered a friend when you were still a child. The wound that betrayal left on your soul was deep and so your willingness to trust others eroded, no longer would you rely on others to accomplish your tasks or life-long goals, rather, you would only trust yourself and your own abilities.

This suspicion of all around you is ultimately what got you noticed by the agents of SI:7. You were recruited young, and under the talented masters of the craft like Mattias Shaw and Renzik the Shiv you learned how to gather and exploit information, and even take a life if need be. It was during one of your many jobs working for the spy agency that you encountered a sailor who helped you during a bind and while you certainly didn’t trust him, he often sent you letters and momentos of the regions he visited which in turn inspired you to become a field agent, one who would see the world while working for the crown.

As a field agent, you were sent to other kingdoms and nation states to keep an eye on events and make sure that your handlers in SI:7 were aware of all that was happening and the first of these kingdoms that you were sent to was the nation of Kul Tiras. A simple gnome would go unnoticed in a city like Boralus, where citizens of all nations mingled as they traded goods and services. While you were there, you took a lover in order to sell your cover story as a charming sailor from distant shores. But when you discovered that your lover was working for the Ashvane Company and bribing city officials for favorable contracts. You were torn, but when you reported to your handlers that your lover was bribing city officials they pressured you into turning them into your informant via blackmail, which you did although you had mixed feelings every time you held their acts over their head as the annonymous blackmailer that was forcing them to gather intelligence that you could use.

As the years passed and you continued to live in Boralus as a spy, you turned to faith to assauge your guilt over what you were doing to your lover. The men and women of Boralus prayed to the sea, and so you joined them at the temples and monastaries, praying silently for absolution. Then when faith didn’t work, you turned to alcohol and sex. But your suspicious nature combined with the guilt you felt over blackmailing the only lover who stayed with you caused those relationships, hidden as they were to fall apart. It still tears at you every day, and yet you soldier on, as a good servant to the crown often does, even as events all around you start to spiral out of control.

There you go. I used a bit of extra creativity there using names and such, but that entire backstory was generated from that book and the dice roller at https://www.dnddiceroller.com. No need for any AI tools that steal from other creators.

The next big MMO will have deep AI integration in encounter design, monster actions, NPC interactions, etc.

No, it won’t, because no one is going to play that trash and it will die faster than most MMOs that enter the market. Even MMOs that have extremely talented creators behind them have trouble getting off the ground in the current MMO market. There’s absolutely no way that an MMO with AI generated trash in it is going to succeed.

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No it won’t. SP games can’t even feasibly do this yet. Never mind trying to apply it to a multiplayer game, and an MMO no less.

Make a good singleplayer game with this kind of seamless AI integration first then get back to me.

As we know, all new things only contain things that currently exist now.

What? Your reply makes no sense.

I’m sure to you many obvious things make no sense.

Good luck!

When I RP with my AI it stops and tells me it can’t talk like ā€œthatā€

I am my typos ok, you’ll see them and like them

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Thats art baby

ā€œIn the year one-nine-nine-nineā€ or ā€œthe year one thousand nine hundred and ninety nineā€ lol.

I think I’d prefer Morgan Freeman. He can at least tell the difference between dates and addresses.