The problem with this is this:
This describes so many people.
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dude AV would have been actually fun in phase 5 to grind out if they made the bosses untouchable until towers/bunkers were down and super buffed all the NPCs health.
instead we got the most short sighted “fix” that anyone who knows what alliance VS horde queue times were like could have seen coming from a mile away. this, like incursions being infinitely repeatable gold farm, shouldn’t have even made it out of the drawing board lmao.
SoD is so fried, I wanted to love this game, but man what a shame it turned out to be. it’s like they’ll do really cool stuff, I think some of the P5 changes seem decent but then they’ll just make yet another horrible decision that overshadows the positives.
also, poor mages. I never could get my mage friend to return to SoD after P3 because he knows they’re still the most garbage class in PVP
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And people still, somehow cant wait for classic+, which will have the same dev team btw
Classic+ will absolutely, 100% be an absolute dissapointment. Failure after failure people will eventually realize you can’t fix what wasnt broken
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No, there needs to be consequences for people promoting this gameplay and ragging on anyone trying to play properly. Even though blizz created the environment where this type of play was the most efficient, it very clearly isnt intended.
No one disagrees with this. As I said before, you can punish the degenerates and fix the rewards. It’s not mutually exclusive.
yeah nah man. they need a ton more resources and voices to tell them “maybe this is a bad idea”
I mean I’m not going to sit here and say everything about SoD is bad, I had a great time for a lot of it, despite frustration. they have shown they can come up with good ideas. they’ve also shown they can come up with the worst ideas you’ve never even thought would be a possibility
There are things in SOD I also think would be fun for me. The problem is my main reason for playing the game is a complete travesty - so that is enough grief to overpower any other fun I could have.
Sometimes the best move is nothing.
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I know as a classic enjoyer you probably are inclined to not believe me but retail is pretty poppin right now 
it is a fundamentally different game, but it’s still good
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Nah I believe you. Theyre just different games. There are classic ppl enjoying retail rn, just not my thing personally
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Is that all people get for intentionally losing? last night I would guess I was easily getting 80-100k an hour for steamrolling the horde in an organized group (what was really hurting our HPH was the time between games was almost as long as games themselves). So if you are going to go to the trouble of making an organized group, why not get in comms and steamroll the horde? games last roughly the same amount of time, since you are 5 capping them instead of being 5 capped.
Makes absolutely zero sense to form an organized group to lose.
Alliance never fight for objectives unless its a premade. There isnt much of a difference since there will always be 2-5 bots / afks and 5 on the road and 2-3 trying to win.
I want to roll an alliance just to see what the bg chat is like kek
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It’s one thing to make rules it’s an entirely different thing to enforce them.
Well if they read my logs I’m done for. We had a priest named Jesus who kept capping flags. I was screaming at him to stop flipping over the tables but he wouldn’t listen.
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ahaha ok this is good
Ah I think my intentions might’ve gotten muddled in my message, Amorix. I do agree with you, I’m basically just saying that they shouldn’t only do that. I think changing the system/environment is what will actually solve the core problem, but I also agree that people who were making a lot of false reports and advertising for the mode in places like trade chat need (at the least) a slap on the wrist. I think the false reports matter a lot more, if we’re talking about punishing anyone.
Indeed, and that’s the problem in WoW since around WoD (2015) blizzard does not enforce the rules with the iron fist any more so the juice of cheating is worth the squeeze for the cheaters.
The solution is really simple, full on permanent Battlenet full account bans for the cheaters.
They’re welcome to come back, but they’re never getting their stuff back, and they’re also more likley as a result to not cheat anymore because they know full well then at that point getting banned for cheating eliminates all your characters and subscriptions.
the end result will be no one playing AB…
if they screw with AV, no one will do AV.
bravo Activision-Buzzard!
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I still want Classic+ to be a thing, but I don’t believe the current devs have indicated that they know how to do it in a way that’d be satisfying to the audience that wants that.
Game balance aside, one of my criticisms with some SoD additions, and you’re probably gonna laugh at me for saying this, is that they visually don’t mesh with the Classic artstyle well enough. The retail crossover weapons (the class-specific weapons from this phase) are too HD. There’s some retail art assets that got introduced as well (such as the fire effect on Molten weapons from MC – that’s a WoD art asset). There’s also the Incubus model for Warlocks, and you can tell that it’s just an HD model with a low poly count. I’m aware that I’m in the minority for feeling that way, but it bugs me. If they want to make a convincing Classic+, it needs to have the vibe nailed. Sound design and visuals matter a lot in this regard. For the most part SoD has been pretty friendly to the original artstyle, but I’m skeptical about their ability to make new models, zones, etc fit the style.
ill tell you what they arent gonna do.
ban the entire alliance faction that have participated in the ab losing.
that would be idiotically bad and not good for the bottom line which i assume they do care about.
anyone saying they will is wrong.
they will probably ban the people who false reported people doing objectives though.
you can be sure of that.
They won’t ban anyone for anything related to this. The tweet was obviously just a warning going forward about reporting people for doing objectives.