Do you really consider it “Solo healing” when you have 2 shadow priests? If you were a druid or priest it’d be 0-1 spriest.
Yes because I do not need them and its just what they want to play. Yes it helps sometimes but they are playing what they want just like everyone else should be during this. Am I the strongest healer? No but you can clear all content in ever spec.
holy pal was op 40+ and its already strong. in p2. for some reason pallies and shams think they should be competitive with the aoe healers on hps even though both dominate st heals.
This isn’t a post about what you can, and can’t do. This is a post about how Holy paladins(healers) are once again given the shaft by Aggrend and his meme spec andys. Paladin’s aren’t asking to be competitive aoe healers, simply just asking for an ability to be added to their toolkit. As I keep repeating myself. Holy Pally plays exactly the same now, as it did in 2004/2019.
What’s shamans excuse for getting Riptide and Tidal Waves? Priest already had aoe healing, why did they get both Penance AND Circle of healing AND Prayer of Mending? Druids got Nourish(single target) and Wild Growth and Lifebloom, and Efflorescence.
I get not every class should be able to do ALL things amazing, but c’mon. How are people so blind to the fact that all runes attuned for Holy have been pointed towards dps.
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They will have a bracer rune, calm down. Holy paladins in classic are similar to warriors in pve, extremely powerful. Runes and buffs in SOD only make them stronger, so the devs have to be careful with not making them completely broken
It’s not even about the bracer rune either. What Chest or Leg rune does Holy get? Tremor Totem? Horn of Lordaeron? Which doesn’t stack with Blessing of Might. The crap version of Divine Sacrifice? Most paladins had /cancelaura Divine Sacrifice during WotLK to negate redirecting damage because it was crap.
Holy has gotten shafted phase after phase.
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All the healers can do this so that means nothing. Paladins need help in PvP. Much of this discussion centers on PvP. Not ONE new heal for Holy Paladins is just not good enough.
Oh will they? Will it be a new heal? People keep saying how powerful Holy Pallys were in Classic, but so were Priests and Shaman. They were just as good at healing as H Pally was.
There is zero excuse for no new heals through twwo phases and two runes into phase 3!
i mean, have you seen resto shams p1 p2? fact is pally and rsham willl always be the closest to vanilla. rdruid also got the shaft for gameplay but at least they can aoe parse right?
Have you seen Restore Shaman in P3? Riptide’s initial instant heal will heal for more than Flash of Light. Can Holy Pallys get a new heal though?
In PvP, Im often forced to only cast Holy Light, a 2.5 second cast heal that drains a ton of mana.
resto sham with 300ish healing. my lhw heals low 500s. you think resto shams are flashing in pvp? damage is too high.
unless they get nerfed just add 2 boomies to your group, mostly to offheal you under focus because like resto sham you are a horrible target if youre being xhealed.
plus if the new holy shock stuff actually does what they seem to be intended to do youll be able to get some chain shocks off, which im assuming it can heal in vanilla. will basically be on par with riptide with the rune ive seen. i do think pallies shoulda got that wrath talent that causes your followup holy lights to be hasted to 2s cast though.
duuuuuuuuuude, It’d be sweet to revive the Legion ‘melee healer’ Paladin. That variant freakin rocked (both in playstyle and the meters).
So…we’d need the Artifact talent that reduced the CD of Holy Shock and LoD with each use of Crusader Strike. Holy Prism…think there was an Artifact talent that upped either the amount LoD healed for or the number it healed; basically just look at the Legion artifact talent “tree”.
And. Of course. The active ability that made CS do more damage and heal those around you.
I’d make it a ‘combo rune’ like Metamorphosis; more than just one ability granted or modified.
Considering that Art of War is used with Ret as well, it would still be better than Shockadin unless they add in more support to Holy Shock in some way. Wrath is going to be a very interesting rune since it’ll increase your critical strikes by your melee crit on things like Holy Shock though.
I find it kind of silly though that the main 2 play styles they are supporting the most are Shockadin and Ret of all things. Not saying Prot is horrible, but we could use some love there. Holy just needs an aoe heal that even on a small cd would be good.
I think making a rune that causes your beacon heals to heal someone else in the raid with missing health (doesn’t have to be a perfect smart heal) to also receive 50% of the heal for 10 seconds on a minute cd or something.
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What holy shock stuff are you talking about? Not seeing any P3 changes yet to holy shock, and while there are runes impacting holy shock, currently they only impact it when it is used as a damage spell, which is part of the problem, they could fix some of that by making infusion of light also effect healing in addition to just damage, which wouldn’t be overpowering.
They do get the ability a rune to reduce the cast time of Holy Light, but as thats on the same rune slot as the one for thespell crit on holy spells, perhaps if they move one of them to the wrist rune, it would at least give them something for that slot.
Man, every class keeps getting things datamined. Still waiting to see anything new to get datamined for the most dead spec and class. Holy Paladin.
Starting to wonder if Aggrend is taking out his frustrations of being told to heal back in 2004 because he wasn’t allowed to play shockadin. So now that he’s in charge, he’s completely neglecting healers.
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Quit trying to make Shockadin a meme-dream-thing, and just let Holy be a good healer.
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Or do both. But damn, Holy Paladin should be strong!
just give us holy radiance so we can have an aoe heal to keep up with the pvp mess.
Holy Radiance, but it ignites your Beacon to heal people within 20y of it. Would easily be a good AOE heal that allows paladins to keep up.
I couldn’t think of this spell name so thank you. I think making it play around the Beacon theme is ideal. It doesn’t make holy paladin incredibly OP in the AOE, but gives them a “chain heal” like effect.
Or even something like, Holy Radiance: Your Critical Strike Holy Light will cause your Beacon to radiate it’s healing to the closest 3 injured targets for 30% of the heal. Lasts 10 seconds. 1 Minute Cooldown.
Hell, even something that makes critical strike Holy Shock heal the nearest most injured target for 50% of the heal. It would add a lot to the toolkit without completely stepping on Priest or Druid healing and be somewhat close to Shaman healing.
Aggrend plays a shaman, his goal is to make pallys useless.