Ads for RMT Boosts filling up M+ Dungeon Finder

Because in any game, ever, there is a large portion of the playerbase that is either lazy or just not good, and if an easy avenue exists to just throwing money at gear/achievments, they’ll use it.

Pay to win has always been a thing in gaming, regardless of the form it takes.

This game has actively challenging content and requires you to do it for the good rewards, but has left the back door open for P2W in the form of boosts.

You literally can’t eliminate the root of the issue. What you can do, however, is the absolute bare minimum of enforcing your own ToS by cleaning up the LFG tool as a basic QoL service to the rest of the playerbase.

I filter the stuff out so it’s whatever to me as far as trying to find groups, but it’s still an issue of inconsistent enforcement of their own rules. Additionally, it contributes to the ever-ballooning issue of carry culture that spills over into actual Raids and M+…where boosted folks then tank other people’s content.

The problem will never be solved, but holy cow Blizz could do the bare minimum here ya know?

The whole “we can’t eliminate the issue, so we’re just gonna let it spiral out of control and not even enforce our own rules” has always been a bizarre mindset to me.

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Blizz is the kind of company that instead of cleaning it up will make a dungeon with a name shortened to “WTS” so they have an excuse not to.

It would affect muh legitimate players if they did.

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Wouldn’t a pretty easy and effortless way to fix this is to ban keywords in the LFG title/description that these bots/boosters commonly use? e.g. ban “WTS”, “sell/selling”, “carry/carrying”, “boost/boosting”, “.com”, etc etc.

No normal and ToS-abiding player is going to be using such keywords in the LFG system anyway, so I don’t see how this wouldn’t work.

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Convince everyone that is buying it will buy to just stop and not do it.

It’s the only way to get rid of it. The only way. Companies can only mitigate so much.

Too many of the groups are enormous, making a ton of money, and in countries where they can’t be gone after.

They can be mass banned in waves ever so often. That’s a temporary solution and a band aid at best.

It’s an arms race and the companies running these games are laughably behind.

I once got a 2 week ban for posting “LF feral druid for keys” in LFG. And yet it’s perfectly okay to have boosting spam in there.

(I paraphrased my posting. I was searching for a player for Mondays at 6 PST for a static group. The GM that banned me implied that using group finder to find a team for future runs is against the community guidelines. He linked the community guidelines and obviously that was made up BS because there’s nothing in there about using LFG today for a run next Monday.)

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Come on now. You only have to open the Premades to see them, page after page of them. Far more people see it in the game than will ever see it on that one post in this one forum.

Something needs to be done and Blizzard is dreadfully slow at doing it.

Yes, stab yourself in the eye so you wont see the Bad and you end up blind. Blocking it doesnt remove it and ignoring doesnt fix it.

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why would they need to use tokens, when they’ve got unlimited access to stolen credit cards?

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I don’t care if people buy it. They have a services channel for the explicit purpose of advertising boosts/carries for gold.

Blizzard isn’t in an arms race with anyone when it comes to policing their own LFG feature of ads because they aren’t doing a damn thing. We aren’t expecting Blizzard to hire Tom Cruise so he can go all Mission Impossible on some foreign group of RMT sellers. We’re just asking them to do the bare minimum to filter them in LFG.

Which isn’t as big of an ask as people make it out to be.

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I’m honestly wondering if Blizzard really cares about the state of Dungeon Finder ads anymore, three years ago I tweeted at them with a screenshot of a [WTS] listing that had been up for five full days, and as far as I can tell the only thing they’ve changed since then is they’ve removed the ‘Created’ timer from listings.

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If they got stolen credit cards they’re wasting their time playing WoW.

And if you have a profitable business that requires credit card payment processing… Selling gold and carries does require this…

You don’t get anywhere near that type of thing because you’ll lose payment processing.

This isn’t 2004 where everyone uses the same password for every site and third party sites store their passwords in plain text files.

I don’t know why people go the way of “Blizzard can’t stop them, they are in other countries and have limitless money via stolen ccs”

Because Blizzard’s LFG listing isn’t in another country and they can’t purchase their way past Blizzard filtering their own features.

They don’t have to eliminate the RMT sellers, they can just do the bare minimum to handle their own features.

Making it harder for them to reach potential customers while actually preserving the QoL of legit players is enough and really isn’t asking very much.

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i’m sure the sites totally don’t ask people to sign up, and absolutely don’t ask for any payment other than gold… right?
why don’t you go visit a couple of them and find out?
see how many keyloggers you end up with.
get back to us :smiley:

Just saying security has changed quite a bit over the last 20 years.

Remember a couple years ago when they ban waved people for paying to have their toons ran through mage tower?

How do you think they confidently and quickly managed to do that without a giant hassle with false positives?

Finger printing installs and machines.

So they know which unique machine and which unique install an account is run from. And suddenly they see all these accounts not doing mage tower on their usual machine, but from machines that are just running multiple accounts through mage tower.

I don’t think account theft is that much of thing any more. Used to see post after post about it back in the day. Don’t really see them very often these days.

Feel free to submit your resume to Blizzard, so you can tell them exactly how to fix the issue of spam bots in a game where accounts are free to create and you can pay for a sub with gold.

As much as I hate to say it I think Blizzard just needs to make it so nobody can edit their titles in group finder.

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Obviously the producers can’t fix humanity, but they could go a long way in helping players to feel less compelled to use these services in the first place, imo.

The producers could minimize the status involved with high-end content. A lot of players pride themselves on being good at the game, but when a real challenge comes along like inviting a less-geared, or less-experienced player to a raid/mythic, they shy away, only inviting the players with pre-approved status.

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It’s the about field where the links to RMT sites are.

What they need to do is enforce their rules. And not punish customer and make their game experience worse to make blizzards enforcement easier.

Haven’t been able to set the title since they required that you give up your phone number and install their app on a phone. Because that was the magic bullet that would end all this.

Sure didn’t, endless accounts setting that field with RMT sites, and I still can’t use it.

From what I understand they are banning the accounts, but apparently these organizations have thousands of them at their disposal.

Coming from New World people would legit sell raid runs because of how inaccessible it is lol. There are even plans from adding matchmaking but I don’t see that going well.

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Blizzard taking action is only part of the problem.

The other half is the community encouraging boosting while doing nothing to discourage it. “alt run AOTC only” or “alt run 3k only” type stuff rewards the RMT and punishes people trying to actually play the game.

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