Another one that can barely read one sentence of text… really…
I’m not the one parroting false information from a known troll.
The statistic is online, but that’s irrelevant because the post isn’t advocating for either side.
The statistic isn’t accurate. And my comment had nothing to do with your overall point. It had to do with a concern I brought up a while ago of people just parroting what they see on this forum from trolls. It spreads and we watch these things become part of a narrative.
As for your overall point, I disagree that the MT was ever insinuated to be easy. It is accessible to everyone, but that never meant everyone had the skill to complete it. I didn’t originally. And I know I don’t now.
But I do agree that the discussions here have followed a toxic pattern and that doesn’t help at all. It’s also created a false divide between “elitists” and “casuals,” which is what your 3% comment goes back to, as well. That’s my biggest concern with these conversations about the MT, that divide people try to create.
I never asserted that it was presumed to be easy at all, and I don’t think it’s fair to claim that people who were unhappy with the state of the Mage Tower ever expected it to be so. I think that’s misrepresenting their criticism, which I’ve detailed above, but it’s really up to the developers to decide, so your criticism of the inaccurate statistics is fair, and I’m sure they have their own analytics to make further judgement calls.
Community managers really do need to engage the community though.
You speak of all the threads around here and it seems you’ve missed dthe part where people have absolutely said this. I never said everyone feels this way, but we have seen the discussions.
And we do need the discussions amongst ourselves to remain more grounded with the real concerns over which parts are overtuned and the CMs should definitely be engaging with that.
Doesn’t matter if statistic isn’t accurate. It was thrown out there and the naysayers have no statistic, just an argument.
Perception rules over reality.
The only real way to refute this is for Blizzard to come out and address it. Plus they would need to be louder than those shouting 3 percent. The argument is lost.
My personal issue with this iteration of the Mage Tower is less that it’s broadly more difficult without the borrowed power around which it was originally designed, and more that I very much wanted to invest quite a bit of time into it but instead have almost no time to do so given the timing of its release (and extension through) the busiest and most hectic month of the year.
If that’s the case then sure, I must have missed it, but I was hoping to provide a balanced overview and that is certainly quite far from what seems to be the acceptable norm even amongst those asking for greater accessibility.
No they’re not, meleeing you can just cleave them down on top of the boss without thought.
That’s why Prot Warrior/Paladin is considered easier.
Proceeds to post a wall…
All of these “im going to summarize the mage tower problems and try to bullet the arguments” threads are really bad.
If you want to do something like this, start by demonstrating an understanding of the problem.
Some classes have much, MUCH harder challenges than others. Some specs have MUCH harder challenges than others within the same challenge. Some racials have a MUCH easier time with the challenges than others.
Stop making it subjective. The problem as always is poor balance.
It’s completely new and about a different aspect, nothing wrong with his post really. You’re free to not click the thread if it doesn’t interest you.
Ummm are you delusional? You do realize casuals can see and do ALL the content right? So what little content do casuals see and don’t see? Raiding? There is LFR made for casuals and they can do each wing at their leisure. M+? They can queue for any m+ they like. Mage Tower? Mage tower is pure skill. If a casual has no skill then it isn’t Blizzard’s fault. You don’t have to be hard core to do the mage tower especially since your gear scales down to Legion ilvl anyways.
So please don’t make up lies.
This post isn’t intended to target the balancing issues of mage tower.
Yes but that number doesn’t fit their narrative so they will continue to ignore it in favor of a different statistic that has already been proven to be false.
The first huge chunk wasn’t and was literally acknowledged as a recap. I didn’t get past that.
Thanks! I’m also free to do what I did.
It was a recap to offer context into what the post was actually about : lack of proper communication.
That could be the issue then, the post was pretty insightful.
Why would you want to annoy yourself by reading things you’re uninterested about is the better question here.
Once more you make presumptions of the intent of this post instead of understanding the post itself. I could remove that figure if you think it makes your argument valid, but really, what are you arguing against?
That poster is in every mage tower thread, incensing people and trying to shutdown any and all criticism, no matter how valid. Posting from a Classic character really betrays what his true intentions are here : just creating arguments and strife.