Add... more... pvp... gear... for.... all.... specs

We sure did need it. Where else is progressive Vanilla?

It’s not bad design, you just don’t like it.

Well, with rank caps in sod, thats not gonna be a thing anymore for sure

being the max rank possible will still be mandatory, but it should be relatively easy to achieve that each phase. No more stacks of sweat-fest warriors in full rank gear in blackwing lair.

Right, but pvp chest, gloves, legs and boots arent gonna be better than raid gear, with a handful of minor exceptions. Remember that the head and shoulders wont be available until likely bwl release, and thats not to mention whatever new, power creeped gear comes out with sod

This is the opposite of what happened in SoM. Everybody rocked the PvP gear in SoM including the PvErs until AQ released.

Bfd already drops items for extra stamina and items for maximum dmg. Not a big fan of buying bis pvp gear with honor or marks or w/e the lockouts in raids allow me to stay slightly ahead of the gear curve for investing in my main since launch and not allowing adderal abusing alt noobs or bots to come in and out gear me within 3 days

What are you talking about? PvP gear isn’t rated in SoD. It’s still handout / welfare gear as you can lose your way to getting the gear.

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Yes, but to get bg rep and honor, you still need to play vs other people. A wsg match still goes for 20+ minutes in a balanced match just the same as in 2004, wheras raids went from a 3 night investment to a 1 hour speedrun. So the time /played taken to get raid gear has drastically reduced, while the time to get pvp gear has remained pretty much static

So? We’re level 25, but we have entirely new raid content and gear to go with it. Why shouldnt we have more pvp gear other than a rank 3 generic af cloak, and some weapons scaled up to 25 from level 18 from wsg revered?

It doesn’t matter how long it takes when you can literally AFK to get the gear.

maybe blizz should just add big fat stamina enchants as rank rewards. that also add a visible effect to the gear.

Im talking about the end game gear, not the level 25 gear. Good luck afking 100 wsg wins

you’re right, the weekly ashenvale quest lets you hit exalted without touching wsg now. But you do have to tag a mob and loot the quest item so you can’t be totally afk. definite progress

That would also take 21 weeks to get exalted purely through that, nearly half a year

The epics stay relevant to 60 and 5 months would probably land you near the start of p3 so no big deal if you’re trying to be afk casual.

I dont expect p2 to last nearly 6 months, that would be absurd. 2 months per leveling phase most likely, so we’d be well into 60 by then, and sure theyre bis for a while, but theyr also literally just one piece out of 16-17

No, it is bad design. The player ought to have agency in the gearing process.

You do have agency in the gearing process. You choose to do the raid and choose to roll or not roll on what drops. Agency doesn’t mean having everything available for some predefined unit of work. That’s what we call “on rails”.