Add Evoker Tier Sets to the Barbershop!

I’m fine with this. It would use be strange to have a fire-breathing, high-flying, spell-flinging race that refuses to do any of the above.

Except in their own lore, the lore the devs put in the game, only the elite handful of dracthyr are Evokers. There are logical more non-evokers than evokers in the race, and only one of the things you listed is a racial ability, fire breathing and spell-flinging are class things for evoker not racial things for dracthyr.

And without either opening up class options or the devs adding a 4th spec to evoker that continues to leave us with the issue of having only race in the game that can’t preform all roles. No other race option says you either pick your race fantasy or you pick your favorite role. I want to be a draconic tank, whether that be because I can roll/race change to a new class with Dracthyr or because someone decided that evokers could tank is irrelevant to me but I want to be able to choose both the race I enjoy and the role I love to play.

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No other classes use draconic magic. All Dracthyr use at least one school - Evokers are unique in that they use all of them, but Dracthyr, by design and inherent talent, all use draconic magic to some degree.

A non-Evoker class would be forsaking that inherent ability. And their ability to utilize their very biology.

I agree that that we should have access to a draconic tank. But slapping a Dracthyr with the Warrior class is not the solution. Playable Drakonid would grant access to that fantasy without straining the credibility of the setting.

So you are saying non-evokers would just choose to be less than others and other races because well I can use a bit of dragon magic why learn anything else?

They would and likely if we look close enough at NPC’s we might already have seen some adapt to using weapons/armor unlike their evoker brethren. Just like how we now have Dranei summoning demons races will adapt to achieve their goals.

Now if they want to make a melee dps/tank class for dracthyr that use those dragon abilities for those rolls instead of opening them up then sure we could go that route, it would still fix the issue but not in a good way since that is likely to be a long time coming.

The second issue is that if they don’t change it and leave it locked it sets the precedent that was erased in Cataclysm that every race can preform every roll. It doesn’t have to be every class but any race should be able to Tank/heal/rdps/mdps on at least 1 class they have access to otherwise you continue to shut people out of doing what they love on a race they want to play. And there is no good reason to keep that from happening.

The point is that they can’t at all if you open it up to other classes.

You mean like how Worgen don’t fight with their claws unless they are a monk? The point is that for some the amount of dragon magic might be negligible enough that they look for a better way. They are not all brimming with enough dragon power to fight with just that magic. They are no more monolithic than any other race we have in the game.

Those Dracthyr never made it out of testing, so to speak. They were utterly discarded. And not put into stasis by Neltharion.

They absolutely are. They were deliberately designed. Every last of of them. To a specific standard for a specific purpose.

Nothing I have seen in the game lore even remotely points to this, if I missed it then I will be more than happy to admit it, but why would we have non-evokers at all if he culled the weak.

As to this their own story this expansion shows how non-monolithic they are. If they were we wouldn’t have them on both sides they would either all be good guys or all be bad guys and yet we have some siding with the Aspects and some siding with the Primalists.

That’s pretty much the whole point of their story.

Again if you have examples I am more than open to looking at them. But we know non-evokers existed and lived so why not cull all but the Super-soldiers then.

There’s no need to point out a single example when literally every Dracthyr we encounter is an example.

So then no there is nothing that shows there was a culling of any Dracthyr that weren’t up to snuff? Just because every PC is one doesn’t mean there aren’t any that aren’t.

The fields of dead in Zaralek and the failed Scalecommanders in the Forbidden Reach, to start. Then the various aborted attempts in Aberrus.

That’s actually pretty hilarious how Dracthyr - a bespoke player race, has fewer options than an NPC race with four arms.

I do wonder when they add T-sets to the barbershop… As it was discussed by Ian

Yep, the “do more” quote upon which I had placed my faith. Then we go tier sets. And I found out that my faith had been misplaced.