What’s that 8/8 ppl are talking about lol?
(I’m dumb please explain)
Again, nothing to this extent was ever added mid-expansion.
I admit, I did not.
I actually run dual “mains” which is a pain in the butt and something I would not recommend. 
That’s well and good too, but I’m thinking more of when people are main switching or w/e and have to regrind everything. That really sucks.
They do, and they should be relavent to those spheres–not others.
You can do much more than 15k with 0 essences as a fire mage.
You guys are so focused on min/maxing your alts for 8/8M clears, it’s insane.
Obviously you could do more before essences were ever introduced, but that doesn’t change the fact that bad people are sometimes bad.
I haven’t done hardcore raiding in a long time, and the times i have you needed everyone to work properly to clear it. Current mythic is easy by comparison,
I did this! Very recently too.
My other is Manlion - Khaz’Goroth (you can see it has all and 70 heart). Is why I don’t think it’s a biggie.
The grind is not appealing to me or id have 70 by now
Too bad I can’t grind out enemies for reputation like back in the day.
=-(
One can hope.
So do I.
Literally Legion. In fact, Legion did it 3 times, in 7.0, 7.2 and 7.3.
That would be dumb. So if you did PvP, and now want to run a Mythic+, your PvP essences do nothing. Or if you want to run M+, and then switch to PvP, your M+ essence does nothing.
This game has never worked this way. Blizzard always makes stuff work in all spheres of content. It’s to encourage people to get out from only 1 sphere of content, and do more.
Conflict and strife is mandatory across all specs due to its benefits as a minor. It is insane due to versatility.
Fair enough. I come from asian mmorpgs and work for a Japanese company…
WoW grind feels like a drop of water in terms of grind 
The grinds in WoW are certainly MUCH easier. I agree. I just abhor it.
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Might just be playing the wrong genre of games then.
I didn’t say make it do nothing. More like, make it not bis.
Like old pvp gear, for example.
Fair enough. I tend to forget about Legion because I severely disliked most of that expansion but that’s purely a subjective thing.
Still, for most of WoW’s history, they didn’t do this. At least, not to the extent of essences which can make a 10% or better difference for some specs.
They mean players going for a full clear of mythic eternal palace which is a silly thing to say since wanting a character to be competitive is actually a common desire for players, at least its a desire that isn’t limited to mythic raiders.
Oh… that’s what they are saying… looking at the stats that only makes a tiny portion of players. I think it’s silly too then.
(I’m just a heroic nab/+10er)
That’s not how BiS ever worked in this game. They don’t “plan” for BiS at the min/max level of Mythic raiding.
Trash mechanic. To even play on a PvP servers, even as a Mythic raider, you need to equip PvP gear to be competitive while doing PvE daily quests.
Good riddance.
WoD went where you want this to go :
- Ding 100 on an alt.
- Ashran for 3-4 hours for Conquest gear.
- Heroic HFC
- The end.
- Make another alt that will last you maybe at most 3 days.
Boring as crap.
Most of WoW’s history, Alts were never able to truly catch up to mains, especially not in the current patch’s content. Even for the very last patch, where Alts could catch-up to be “last patch content ready” in a few hours at most, they never went so far as to give them “same power as the main, just for hitting cap”.
So I don’t know what WoW you’ve been playing, but it’s not this one.
Being competitive means being able to output the levels of DPS required to down content, while performing its mechanics.
Guess what : for most content, that can be done with rank 1 or 2 essences. We killed Heroic Azshara week 1 with no one in the raid even having Rank 3 Rocky Boi (which was impossible to get) or Rank 3 meme beam (which was impossible to get). In fact, our raid didn’t even have 3 essence slots at all until late Orgazoa progression.
The one where progression was gear based rather than based on temporary expansion systems.
I.E all of WoW until Legion.
It was an example and nothing else. One that is a conversation for another time.
I personally feel that just like raiders should not have to pvp for their best essences, pvpers should not have to raid.
Blizzard has a tendency recently to try and force everyone to do everything though.
Of course not. I wasn’t insinuating that it was.
It’s just unfortunate that it is in some cases.
hahaha, what?
You realize the gearing part is to actually do higher content, grinding world quests and stuff like that for the essences over and over is a good reason not to play alts.