Accessibility should not have to be earned. Steady flying should be automatically available as an alternative

I have answered that many times.

You have given your opinion why this isn’t an accessibility issue. I disagree with it as I’ve already explained many times.

Just because you have “extensively laid out” your opinion, it is still an opinion that I disagree with.

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You haven’t answered that. You have given non-committal responses, using other opinions for why it shouldn’t be questioned. I want to know why it’s more difficult when the rest of the game appears to be just as hard, if not harder, than what skyriding requires of the player.

So far, I’ve only gotten one answer to that question, and it’s not from you.

Currently still working on it based on some suggestions from this thread, working with Opie and the radial dials. It was suggested to use my scroll wheel but that isn’t working well for me personally.
I did everything prior to completing pathfinder grounded. I am able to go short distances but maneuvering is still a bit rough for me to do. Mainly the angling of the camera and adapting my low response times to faster flying. For reference I do not run any raid higher than LFR as I know I am much slower due to my set up.

And control, but I am getting there with it. I have occasional spasms that are just normal life for me that hovering in steady flight helps with by letting me step back when they happen and be fine instead of falling and having to restart again while skyriding.

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Thank you for explaining. I think that’s fair, and hopefully Blizzard will institute better accessibility features for skyriding to make it more accessible for people like yourself.

For what it’s worth, I am a strong proponent of accessibility features, especially in circumstances like your own. I just don’t find static flying to be a part of that conversation, but rather a bandaid fix for what appears to be the standard moving forward in WoW.

I understand this conversation is more nuanced, and a WoW forum thread will likely never get into the weeds of that nuance, but that doesn’t mean I can’t try to understand where people like yourself are coming from while still maintaining that static flying is a distinctly separate issue.

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Reality is, person to whom you’re speaking doesn’t understand the difference between an opinion and an argument.

I know that because they haven’t provided a single argument that I’ve seen. I’ve seen an opinion, and then I’ve seen that opinion repeated, and I’ve seen “I disagree” more than I should ever have to.

Really, what’s the point?

If people are capable of engaging in end game content and are able to do all the end game stuff, but it’s dragon riding that’s the problem, Idk what to say, but I don’t really care.

Pathfinder’s dumb, and it should either grant both types of flying at the same time or just be removed entirely. I don’t think anyone would disagree with that statement.

Quite frankly the grand majority of this “discussion” seems more like hair-splitting than anything else.

I know there are a lot of trolls who will virtue signal accessibility / disability stuff and a lot of the people here are posting in bad faith. Is what it is. Pity them, especially liolang, and carry on.

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Honestly I’m still amazed they haven’t hit us with XP loss on death yet. That would buff time played metrics through the roof.

I brought something akin to that up in here a while back.
I think 90% of the base would quit if they tried something like that based on the rabid responses lol

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Nah it would be the same kind of push as new flying. Blizz would probably take something out and replace it with the xp loss instead, something like armor durability. Then they could begin to phase out gold and go completely off of PvE/PvP token currency.

lmao…comparing end game content that MANY have NO interest in to a basic mode of travel and pretending its the same lmao…only those on this forum could be this incoherent.

many avoid end game and other action packed parts of this game BECAUSE of their issues with that sort of thing…motor skills, motion sickness, etc.

But if those same NON end game sorts say they want FIVE HOURS of pathfinder removed for PARITY and FAIRNESS…these trolls lose their minds and pretend that somehow their not being part of the END game group has a single thing to do with their not being able to easily handle skyriding lmao

This forum…WAY worse than the ignorance I see on twitter. lol

That’s terrible. Does this still happen on flightpaths? They get up to about 760% speed which is pretty much right where skyriding is at

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Idk why you’re fixated on this but it’s literally never going to happen in retail wow. Weird talking point tbh

This was the main thing I kept thinking that could be a huge issue. Have you tried using a 12 button mouse, where you can key bind the buttons? Sorry if you already play with something like that.

Never say never in the Nether my frendo.

i dont know man…lol…Ion tried removing flight and that was a catastrophe.
I think hes gonna be very careful with big, scary moves like that in the future, lol.

then you think about who is affected by deaths the most…the most likely…end gamers and those who play harder content.

If theyre in here tossing fits about THIS triviality with 5 hours of PF being removed, as we’re requesting it be…can you imagine the CRYING that would be going on in here if they are losing XP or anything else dying frequently enough while someone like me rarely dies at all becaues I just dont do any content that I might die in?

This forum would be set on fire with violence and whining for weeks…months, lol

We. Will. Literally. Never. Have. EXP. Loss. In. Retail. WoW.

I said it again :smiley:

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For her its all about how fast stuff moves on the screen and if she is expecting it.
Shes more likely to not use flight paths because the game is in control and if it twitched right when she was expecting a left she’d get motion sick over it.

Shes VERY controlling about stuff like that lol.
She cant read or look to the side much when shes in the car…cant look down at stuff in her lap or she gets sick and often will have some weird headache…literally from just looking at anything but the road while the car is moving.

I totally sympathize with these folks in here who deal with that sort of thing.

But then, I actually have human empathy…a trait REQUIRED for civilization to exist.

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Everyone’s argument is just an opinion, including mine.

We can post our arguments, but that does not make them fact. They are just opinions

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No problem with the suggestion, I do have a Naga mouse I have been keeping alive that helps me play the game in a basic way.

My assumption was just that Blizz had already started to build the game (TWW) before they brought back old flying. Due to popular demand they made it easy to achieve. It wasn’t hateful, it was thrown in as an after thought.

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In legion… No flying until grinding pathfinder.

In Battle for Azeroth… 2 part pathfinder with multiple exalted reps needed. I quit wow in 2020 because of the no flying without achievements.

Fast forward to now.

LITERALLY JUST EXPLORE THE NEW AREAS. Then you get pathfinder and unlock steady flight.

Please stop. Do a minimum of research to see how easy it is to get steady flight. Everything can be reached without flying if you physically can’t dragonride.

So hop on a ground mount and go explore the new areas. If you are questing and do the story you only have to go to a few extra places for the pathfinder and free steady flight.

If you are “able” enough to play WoW, fight monsters, and do quests. You should be perfectly capable of exploring the map for pathfinder.

Honestly so sick of the “I’m too disabled for dragonriding” garbage posts.

Don’t bother looking for how easy it is to get steady flight. Just immediately run to the forums to QQ. So stinking sick of it.