that would kill the spec in pvp.
Gotta be kidding
Why make hunter a full on warrior with a pet when we have enough melee classes in the game. It’s sad seeing people want to destroy the hunter fantasy like this.
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You are melee not range. So not a hybrid. Serpent sting does not require a bow. Wildfire bomb throws traps out of nowhere.
And you clearly dont know dont what you are talking about. Another troll ignored.
Lots of range in this game dont use bows?
Wot? 10char
You said survival is not hybrid because it doesnt use a bow. Lots of ranged abilities in this game dont require bows, yet are still ranged.
Current SV is 100% a hybrid between melee and ranged. The only ability that requires actual melee ranged is the spec defining Mongoose and even it can be used from range for extended amounts of time.
In fact, being this hybrid is not a small part of what allows it to excel in PvP.
Being able to bully cloth and some leather wearers in melee range while being able to kite thicker bruisers like Arms, Frost and Ret is an adaptability that not many classes have.
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In fairness, none of us gets to define what hunter fantasy is for anyone else - especially when the idea of “fantasy” is being boiled down to mechanics.
Warcraft has established the presence, however uncommon, of agile survivalists who fight toe-to-toe alongside their beast companions. That trope exists within the Warcraft fantasy, and the people behind the game are the ones who define said fantasy. We may agree or disagree, but we do not get to tell them how to write their story because they’re doing it wrong.
(Outside mistakes in established canon, of course. pushes up glasses)
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Wildfire Bomb is a bomb, not a trap.
It was specifically made a bomb (Wildfire Bomb) instead of a trap (Explosive Trap) because people complained about throwing a trap in the middle of combat to deal damage making no sense.
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And it’s true: It doesn’t make sense. A trap thrown into an active fight that explodes a second later isn’t a trap. It’s a bomb. Might as well drop the window dressing and make it what it is!
I don’t care if Survival is melee or ranged -it should throw an explosive, and that explosive should be a bomb!
Then why don’t we remove all “traps” use during combat?
A bomb thrown at your feet is suicidal and illogical.
Yes, okay. Traps are fine for set-up, but yes: Remove their use during combat.
No more than throwing an explosive trap at your feet. But also, a lot of what we do as saviors of Azeroth is suicidal and illogical. No sense getting hung up on that now!
Here’s the solution: Put melee hunter as a 4th spec so the people that probably enjoyed the last airbender movie can play it and give us back the REAL survival hunter spec, explosive shot and black arrow hunter.
Seriously, who goes hunter to play a great value brand warrior?
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If it is non-sensical to call something a “trap” that you use in combat, it is just as non-sensical to call something a bomb and throw it at your feet.
Sv is my favorite hunter spec because it’s a hybrid. I found it to be the most unique spec I’ve played as well. Making it all melee would be a mistake. Being able to keep pressure with SS and bombs, or maintain uptime with eagle during boss mechanics/kiting in pvp is invaluable. Especially with the lack of sustain healing. I feel like I have tools to deal with any situation on SV.
If there is one thing I’d change, it would be the resource gen tied to the pet. If it dies (and if revive does go to 6sec cast in SL) than we may be in trouble.
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Go play Classic.
The rest of us will continue to enjoy having basic CC capability that has been standard for all classes for ~14 years.
You don’t throw Wildfire Bomb at your feet, you throw it at your target.
This is the key issue I have with finding the fun in SV.
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Yeah me too. Whenever my pet goes down its a dps loss, and that’s never fun. However, outside of pet deaths I’ve found a good rhythm with KC in my rotation and wildfire infusion red bombs so I’m never resource starved
My issue is that if I want to play a pet dependent spec, I will play BM. On the few occasions I’ve done anything with SV, it was because I wanted to test out the melee hunter thing. In Legion I found it was overly reliant on maintaining a bunch of unrelated stuff, and in BfA I found it was essentially just as pet dependent as BM, with a clunkier rotation, and without the benefit of being ranged.
How’d you read my statement - “Remove [trap] use during combat” - and interpret that as “Hunters should not have CC”?