A Call for Real Communication: Havoc and Vengeance DH, 11.2 Silence, and the Broader Problem

We’re now well into the 11.2 PTR cycle and once again, Demon Hunters are staring down another patch cycle in absolute silence.

There have been zero blue posts, zero engagement, and zero feedback, not just on tuning or mechanics, but on whether the class is even being looked at. It’s a hauntingly familiar pattern. And while the original forum thread here already highlights the class-specific frustration, I want to zoom out and address the larger elephant in the room:

Blizzard’s communication, across the board, is broken.

Havoc Is in the Dark (Again)

You’d think by now that a spec as historically volatile as Havoc Demon Hunter, one of the most feast-or-famine specs in WoW, would at least get a footnote during PTR development. But instead, we get total radio silence.

  • No confirmation on whether we’re considered “done.”
  • No feedback on long-standing talent issues.
  • No insight into whether tier set performance is even being monitored.

We’re not even asking for buffs, we’re asking for a pulse.

When communication is this non-existent, it doesn’t just frustrate, it creates anxiety. We’re left speculating based on datamining, simming what little changes we see, and hoping we’re not blindsided with a last-minute gutting or a forgotten rework.

And this is not new. Demon Hunters have been left in this limbo patch after patch. It’s exhausting.


But This Is Bigger Than Demon Hunters

The silence on Havoc is just one symptom of a deeper problem: Blizzard does not communicate proactively with its player base anymore, at least not through the channels that matter.

Take this past Tuesday’s maintenance as a prime example:

  • Servers were down for over an hour.
  • No heads-up on the launcher.
  • No blue post on the forums.
  • No in-game notice.
  • No Bnet client banner.

It took nearly an hour for an announcement to even appear outside of X (formerly Twitter). Why is a billion-dollar game company relying solely on a social media platform with declining reach to communicate service outages?

When even the basic infrastructure of your game goes down, and your players have to dig through Twitter threads or Discord rumors to find out what’s going on, something is very wrong.

We Need a Change Now

Here’s what players want. It’s not outrageous:

  1. Designated Class Communication:
    Every spec deserves acknowledgment during PTR, even if it’s “we’re not making major changes this cycle.” Saying nothing creates distrust.
  2. Transparent Maintenance Updates:
    If servers go down, the launcher, Battle.net client, and forums should reflect that within minutes. Not an hour later. That’s unacceptable.
  3. Forum Engagement:
    Stop treating your own forums like a ghost town. Engage with feedback. Post clarifications. Be present.
  4. Unify Your Channels:
    Don’t hide important updates on one platform and ignore the others. If Twitter hears it, so should the launcher and the forums at the same time.

We’re not asking for hand-holding or non-stop replies. We’re asking for basic respect as your paying customers and passionate players. Silence is not a strategy—it’s a slow erosion of trust.

We love this game. That’s why we speak up. But it’s on Blizzard to meet us halfway. Please say something

You Can’t Stay Silent About a Third Spec While Ignoring the Other Two

Let’s talk about the elephant that Blizzard won’t address: the heavily rumored third Demon Hunter spec. While its been speculated, theres no official word of it anywhere. And while its not concrete that we will get a 3rd spec, that doesnt mean you leave us in silence about anything else.

And look, we get it. If it’s not ready for 11.2 or even 12.0, fine. But don’t stay completely silent about a speculative third spec while also ignoring the two active ones. That’s not mystery, that’s just poor communication.

We have now gone almost an entire patch cycle with no meaningful changes to Havoc or Vengeance. Outside of a few PvP tuning notes which, let’s be real here were comically pointless given that Demon Hunters are nowhere close to a PvP threat right now.

It almost feels insulting, like Blizzard threw out those token changes to pretend we’re on their radar. But you’re not fooling anyone. We see the patch notes. We see every other class getting iteration, attention, or at the very least, acknowledgment. What we’re getting is radio silence and lip service.

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Blizzards communication on classes with the community has essentially always been terrible.

Really wish they would put some effort into regular communication for all classes and specs.

-hey here are some trouble areas we see
-here’s a couple of solutions we’re kicking around
-you’ll see some bigger changes to address some concerns on the next ptr because we can’t fix what we want in hotfixed

Like whatever man. There just needs to be more, and better, communication. And it needs to happen regularly.

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Honestly after contemplating the topic for awhile I’m pretty sure the lack of noise and changes is a sign of a decently sized overhaul in Midnight. Currently both havoc and vengeance are performing well and while they have their quirks they aren’t a broken mess. This leads me to believe they have decided to leave it as is and focus on the new spec/hero talents.

I imagine adding a new spec and redesigning the entire class tree as well as hero talents has them booked up. Hopefully we will get some demon form customization options, and other requested features DH has asked for over the years.

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Strong post. And I am inclined to agree.

That is a fair statement because I feel Rogues and DH are in the same boat.

:+1:

:surfing_woman: :surfing_man:

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