Well toughlove, here’s me responding with my captaincaveman brain. Beneath this thick skull apparantly. Its 9 days late, after all it does take time to think. Have to treat that idea gently as its in a strange place. Now are you done trolling me? Or do you plan on continuing?
What does that sentence even mean?
Nevermind, it boggles the mind just trying to puzzle it out. On with the response:
I’ll put it in simple terms so you can understand. Starting with some history of current classic.
Alliance had 5 months of winning AV from the start, mainly due to them being premade and horde being pug. They had slightly above a 70% win ratio. I should know, because like you, i was a alliance then. They are full of elitist jerks, who troll teammates gears. Pointing fingers for the cause of the loss. And being generally a-holes towards each others, and, yes… they have the loser mentality of, if the match goes past 10 mins. Lets let the horde win so we can queue up into another match.
This is how all the premades started. Because people got tired of losing, so they devised a way to increase their chances greatly, based off the old legacy content, where there were few and far between premades.
The effect of the premades then grew exponentially, among both factions. Why, because both sides got sick of losing to other premades.
IE: Loser aggro is how it started.
Clearly you fall into this category, because the losers (for the most part) are the ones who started with the premades. They wanted something they couldn’t normally aquire in pugs. The very same ones you call hardcore, in the majority. They might not be losers now, because most of them have their rank 14, or are close to it, and they have in all probability, with the countless hours of doing pvp, have actually learned how to play their class. Now they are avoiding AV like the plague. Probably due to the fact that they can’t control the numbers of players, vs their premades on such a large scale.
So if they are such hardcore players. Why aren’t they INSIDE AV? Clearly they’re good enough to win ab and wsg right? So why not av, not hardcore enough?
Was it the premade limit on alliance in AV being dropped to much lower numbers, or was it entirely removed due to how many months of excessive abuse? (I don’t actually recall much of that, as i was checking out new servers to transfer to.) Clearly as a solo player, they have the gear, skill, and consumables to win. But it doesn’t meet their standards because the rest of the 40 man isn’t likewise dedicated to the win as they are. In other words, they didn’t want to lose, because their precious honor per hour would drop. As its not meeting their maximum reward, for their maximum effort as a team player. Their not there to pvp, their there to get their rank and maintain it. At any cost. Except when it comes to that BG. So much for being hardcore. Only suitable when its to your advantage right?
So when all the big alliance people responsible for the AV wins, for alliance side. Changed to a different method, smaller battleground limit more suited to easy wins with their premade. Much better honor per hour as they were not continually in 2 hour struggles to win. Was AV too hardcore for them vs such a large scale pug? Probably… So they went into WSG and AB when it finally came out. And now of course, all alliance people are pointing fingers at the map, and how its to blame for cave respawns, when they originally had a 70% + win ratio in av. The map didn’t change. The horde didn’t change. What did, was the rankers left av behind because it wasn’t suiting their needs. So making excuses about the map, the horde respawn and starting location, is pathetic. Plain and simple. Yes i said it again, because i’m clearly stupid. I just had to be sure that i got the point across. /sarcasm.
In response to all the alliance premades in wsg and ab. Horde picked up the initiative that the alliance created, and met them in both of those bg’s as premades, with even more frequency. With the exception of the solo queue’rs. This is why we have premade issues now, This is clearly a player created problem. Sorry for the history lesson, but as anyone knows history often repeats itself.
So. Your argument is based on hardcore premade players, stomping pugs who aren’t. You value preparation, best talents for your build, best gear for your rank, consumables, and of course have the same expectation of every person in your premade. To better your chances of winning, correct? And you call this hardcore.
I call that obsession. Not dedication, not hardcore, but obsession.
You argue with bodybuilding as your example… thanks for the laugh. First, Its not a team activity. Its a solo mindset, that requires dedication, not hardcore, but dedication. Because dedication is a merit spanning years and decades. It becomes a way of life. The same is true for people of faith. Hardcore, is a term that goes beyond dedication to the extreme, and becomes the word Obsession. In some cases, fanaticism. There are other less friendly, words i could use to describe what you call hardcore.
And when are you going to get it through your thick skull, that i have never said i wanted rank 14, In classic. I said it before, i’ll say it again in simple english.
I AM NOT A RANKER IN PVP. I AM HERE FOR THE REPUTATION ONLY. HAVE I MADE MYSELF CLEAR?
Learn to read!
Your perception of hardcore is premades, and everything it entails. My perception of hardcore, is earning it the hard way via solo queue’s. I prefer the harder road, because it gives more of a sense of satisfaction and is more rewarding, remembering the journey. Rather than, taking the easy way, by making/joining a premade, and stomping pugs for easy wins. Or giving up to save time, to preserve your precious honor per hour. Your entire argument, seems to me… to be based on ranking and honor per hour. Are you still going to assume i pvp for that? Again?
Sorry for the exceptionally long post folks. But i just had to make myself clear on a few points, as experienced.