At this point, who doesn’t have a means to see what will happen and plan ahead. I really dislike that Warcraft’s plot is now so motivated by people seeing the future and knowing how each actor will play their hand.
Sylvanas is the worst offender, but this prophecy nonsense is getting to be too much. Sure all the line drops in ‘riddles’ gives the community plenty to theorize on, but it’s such a cop out and doesn’t come as a surprise to anyone.
All in all, interesting stuff, but as far as interviews go, I won’t believe it until I see it. Being deceitful in interviews isn’t storytelling Blizzard.
No it doesn’t. the novel establishes Arthas as an entity sharing his body with Ner-zhul. It also establishes that after destroying the last bit of his humanity, Arthas eliminated Ner’zhul’s spirit as well.
What falls on the top of Icecrown is acknowledged by the spirit of King Terenas as his son. Changed from what he would have been otherwise, but he’s still Arthas.
In fairness, Ursoc already has two named offspring that we know of. Ursonn and Kodian up in Northrend.
Since Chronicle established that Wild Gods start out as mortal creatures at first, it’s perhaps feasible that one or both of them could someday ascend to that state of being as well. The fact that they can readily speak to the player even suggests that they aren’t just ordinary bears, so maybe they’re already on their way to eventual Wild Godhood.
What I don’t get yet is:
Why was that ecen necessary… from a story point of view to kill Ursoc. I mean … do we really just see blizzard going the GoT crap direction by killing off chracters just for the sake of it?
Ursoc was hardly relevant and is not now. Sure he is from a lore point of view but in terms of the more narrow story … unimportant nor does it really impcact the gameplay of teh expanision in any particular way.
Killing off a known character like that does show just how dire the situation in the Shadowlands are and what is at stakes. I guess you could argue that killing off some no name characters first and then show Ursoc, or whoever is going to share a similar fate, but that really doesn’t have the same impact.
I mean, when that citadel in the Maldraxxus short exploded and Draka’s teacher died, did you care? I didn’t.
Well that is my point. It is a cheat and very unoriginal way to build unnecessary drama.
In fact if there was no ursoc in that capsule but just a soul, the message would have been the same, the drama the same.
That’s why I say I don’t understand it anymore. Blizzard just kills off characters for the sake of it… it hardly made any real difference or hat an impact at all.
It’s not like they haven’t killed off characters before the new writers. We’re reaching into a damned if you do, damned if you don’t level of cynicism.
Well … I might be one of the most pissed of NEs on the planet and I main a druid.
And I was upset about yet again a NE character or associate being killed off for no reason, but beside that …
It is just infuriating because of that same narrative: If you need someone to kick in teh face, take someting from the NEs.
But beyond that, Ursoc would have been a character we know will be dead for centuries so not relevant at all.
Is there any Wild God that is canonically dead that has been around for enough years to have a large emotional investment by the player base that would have been sufficient to cause an Actual Emotional Response to replace Ursoc in the scene?
The intent was to make you cry. It’s a Wild God afterlife. The list is short.
Can’t use Rezan because a) he’s been around for only 2 years so would not have made anyone cry and b) he’s being perma killed as part of the Voljin/Bwon questline to empower Bwon further.
Shadra and Hireek have never had in-game voice acting or meaningful lore development prior to BFA, so again little emotional weight, and Shadra we kill I believe twice in questing before BFA.
But they failed. I didn’t cry because of ursoc … but because of how that cute fae guy racted and how he felt.
That is why I said if the sould pod was just a random soul it would have had the same impact.
You’re assuming that’s what it takes to make people get invested in a character. Remember Zappy Boi? Literally all it took to make him popular was the fact that he was a troll in a cinematic that didn’t get beaten to death by Anduin.
I have a hard time taking anything said in those interviews at face value. Ursoc being truly gone is one of them. Though giving him a spiritual successor would make the statement technically accurate but violate the confidence players place on their assurance.
Just look at all the characters that have been dead but continue to be relevant and have tangible impacts on World of Warcraft. This expansion - which admittedly is death realms - has Uther, Arthas, Garrosh, Kael’thas, Draka, and I’m sure plenty more. Even before this, though, we had Illidan and Gul’dan come back from being dead-dead.
