Why would you want to have a clear victory when the big bad of the expansion is actually doing something. This is the first time we can actually feel like the mawsworn are an actual threat.
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Have you not seen dragonball z?
SoâŚwhat Iâm seeing from this conversation, and something I agree with, is that many people would have liked to see Sylvanas suffer in some meaningful way. The only thing that seems to do that is the psychological thrust of Nathanosâ mention. It would have been nicer to see some cuts, some rending, some bodily harm.
What I think some other people here are trying to point out is that it might be significant that Tyrande thought choking Sylvanas was a way to cause her harmâwhen, ideally, we know, as should Tyrande, that this isnât as effectual as weâd like for it to be. Which has to lead one to considerâat this point in the cinematic, was Tyrande at all in her right mind, or had the Power of Elune consumed her to the point where rational thought was no longer possible?
I tend to see the ending in that last lightâwhere rational Tyrande is lost. Those few seconds where we get her squeezing the âlifeâ out of Sylvanas are meant to show us that âsomething has gone terribly wrong hereââeven if it is kind of cool.
I get the frustration of not seeing any tangible suffering on Sylvanasâ part while also enjoying that little bit at the end which signals to us that Tyrande as âTyrandeâ is no longer there. And perhaps itâs also meant to signal that rage and pain cannot sustain an effortâwhatever that effort might be. It can propel us toward greatness, but it canât sustain us.
And from that perspective, I really like the idea of the story they were trying to tell here. I also see Ysera not going in for the kill to be indicative of her greater concern for Tyrandeâs well-being: she cares more about Tyrande than Sylvanas, and I think thatâs an important aspect of âŚ(hahahaâŚyes, pardon the pun,) Ysera.
All in all, I enjoyed the cinematic, but felt it could have been improved by some ripping and tearing that wasnât just psychological in nature. War and fighting is brutal by nature; we love the scars that build the characters that create the stories that weâve come to love in World of Warcraft. So when we donât have visible evidence of those things, it can be difficult to feel any real or visceral emotional response. And I think thatâs all that this scene was probably missing. Hopefully theyâll keep that in mind for future cinematics.
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I understood the phrase correctly: we do not need victories while the villain is working; besides, the pilgrim Maw (Maw Wolker?) threatened the inhabitant of Maw. Right? Or was it irony / sarcasm?
Okay, I donât see how âTyrande was winning for a momentâ is even a coherent argument, much less something that people are supposed to be content with it. Canât we also say that Sylvanas was winning since she had Tyrande at her mercy after her Moon battery shorted out and decided to monologue instead of eliminating her before dodging the ineffective dragon? On top of that, Syvlanasâ forces looks to have completed their mission.
Granted, Sylvanas of course is going to survive as sheâs a raid boss in the upcoming raid, but Tyande is a clear loser in this engagement. Warcraft has always been black a white no matter how âMoRaLlY gReYâ The clowns in Ivrine think they can make a story.
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Correct on the former; the forum has spent a good while talking about how the Jailer isnât really a threat or at least doesnât feel like it. This is his first actual offensive, so it needs to go off extremely well in order to establish that feeling of danger.
Do we have to lose for the Maw to feel like a real threat?
Yes, because if we win it is in direct opposition to the Jailer. Our victories are His losses. Why should we feel concerned about someone whoâs entire storyline is âfailing upwardsâ?
The cinematic felt right⌠until her power mysteriously disappeared for no fing reason. Like wtf???
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I was thinking about it a little more and Iâm wondering if some of us are just missing the simplest explanation for why Tyrandeâs power is fading: sheâs just dying, thatâs all. That was supposed to be the price paid for the power in the first place.
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Then why is she rampant when she is being treated?
Sheâs not being treated while sheâs running around. Ysera put her in a coma afterward to buy some time.
Thatâs supposed to happen when you beat the raid, not before you enter it.
OK.
Does the same logic apply when looking at the night elves from the Horde side?
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Stupid analogy. The War of the Thorns was not at all like that, and who then strangled whom?
Shorted out, or was deliberately withdrawn. Tyrande had said âMy life for hers.â Maybe that trade was rejected?
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Raid 9.1 is the TaâZavesh market, right? No raids in the Maw before 9.2?
9.1 isnât the end of the story. Not by a long shot.
Iâm interested in raids. So you shouldnât wait for heroic moments until 9.2?
Raid 9.1 is the Sanctum of Domination
TaâZavesh is the Mega Dungeon
What a pathetic, fan-fiction tier joke. Literally knocking on bloody Dragon Ball Z at this point, only classic DBZ was actually better written than this garbage. Night Warrior achieves nothing, Sylvie does her girlboss Villain Sue nonsense. Nothing changes, or has changed for years with this character, yet morons gobble it down.
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