lol - I have vendored almost all of those items. Not realizing you could trade them for something. (Only one I have not seen: Dark Iron Baby Booties.)
Why do players value their pet collection and then want everything to be trivial to collect? Should they stop making pets so there’s never a pet you have to work for or can’t obtain?
Players celebrated when they announced shadowlands would use the same pet currency as BFA. This trivialized every single early pet because anyone active in collecting charms already had everything they needed to buy every single pet. Now we see the other side effect of not switching currencies between expansions. Now you have two expansions full of world quests and table missions to obtain charms so they can price things extremely high.
Blizzard butchered the first currency rotation by removing leveling stones and pet food from the old currency, but the reason for the currency rotation was valid. Players should not feel forced to farm legacy content to earn current content rewards.
Blizzard made mistakes in BFA and Shadowlands with the pet currency so hopefully they get it right in the next expansion. There should be a two tier pet currency system. Currency A should be the primary currency of a new expansion. This currency can be used for all new rewards as well as pet food and leveling stones. Item prices can be balanced around a single expansions worth of currency gains but an item could still be a challenge to obtain. Currency B would be the currency for all past expansions. It can be used on all of the rewards of those expansions as well as pet food and leveling stones. When a new expansion launches a players Currency A converts to Currency B. The rewards from the rotating expansion covert to currency B as well. If there are any items that a player could not afford through currency A now they can use any previously earned currency B to obtain the rewards.
Wayne brought up a valid point regarding the 10k PPC. If this price stays, Blizzard should look into reworking the stack size of Polished Pet Charms. Currently they only stack to 1k, which means we’d need to carry around 10 stacks to buy one battle pet. Maybe have them stack to 5k or something so that it’s not as cumbersome.
There’s a difference between wanting something trivial and wanting something reasonable.
10k charms is not reasonable. They’ve created a meta that involves buying and trading pet charm pets for the ones you need in other covenants.
They added 5-6k worth of pet charms pets in Shadowlands, then they tack on a 10k pet and you act like that’s just fine and dandy.
Many people, myself included, now feel like we’ve been screwed over for helping others get the other covenant pets. I bought Battie and either gave them to friend sor sold them for far cheaper than AH price. That’s probably 3,000 pet charms down the drain because of it.
On top of that, some of these grey items are not reasonable int he least. 5% drop from relic coffers in BRD? 1% drop from trash in raids? No. Just no.
The raid drops aren’t as bad as they seem. I just spent last night checking out my luck and managed to get multiple The Stoppable Force and Robble’s Wobbly Staff. The good thing about the raid drops is that they come from the trash, so you can just clear trash, don’t kill bosses (so you don’t get saved to the instance), zone out and reset, and repeat. Being max level makes killing the mobs trivial.
It’s like a (doable) scavenger hunt, which is a kind of refreshing change from the usual “spend gold or charms to get X pet”. As long as I can look for the items on my main and it doesn’t require any additional hoops, I don’t mind hunting/grinding.
I ran Karazhan 4 times and got no Stoppable Forces.
RNG is RNG.
Wowhead however, has them both listed as a 1% drop.
I’m not entire sure what BC raid you did for the Stoppable Force that didn’t have the vast majority of its trash that can drop it locked behind bosses.
What’s even worse, is some of the grey items, like Rabbit’s Foot and Rotting Bear Carcass, are locked behind low level characters. They will not drop at level 60.
I just created a lvl 1 for the Rabbit’s Foot and found plenty. For the Carcass, so as it doesn’t ruin the hunt for some, a hint: dungeon loot tables aren’t affected by the world/player scaling
Why do players value their pet collection and then want everything to be trivial to collect?
Being an OCD completionist doesn’t mean I WANT it to take up my entire damn life.
Being an OCD completionist doesn’t mean I WANT it to take up my entire damn life.
To really be doing OCD right, you DO want this to take up your whole damn life.
For anyone curious, where I farmed the 9 items:
Fresh Level 10 Allied Race (Locked behind Chromie Time, so you can’t get these on a 50-60)
EDIT: #3 and #4 are not dropping for everyone in Chromie Time. Only confirmed drops have been on fresh characters as of 9.0.5. So either create a fresh Allied Race, or farm them from their alternate locations.
- Rabbit’s Foot - Wolves in the Human Starting Area or in Mulgore, just make a new human or tauren character for quick access.
- Rotting Bear Carcass - Mangeclaw in Dun Morogh, right before the tunnel to Loch Modan (50% drop rate as opposed to 5% on the bears in Loch Modan). Can also be farmed in Old Hillsbrad Foothills Dungeon from the Bears.
- Large Slimy Bone - the two types of slimes right outside the gate leading to Loch Modan from Wetlands. Can also be farmed in Wailing Caverns from the Slimes on any level character.
- Ground Gear - Harvest Watchers at Farshire in Borean Tundra. Can also be farmed in Ulduar from Flame Leviathan and Mimiron on any level character. NOT 100% drop even from the raid boss.
Ones obtained on a 60:
- A Frayed Knot - Pick Pocketed Rogues outside of Stormwind. Bandits and Cutpurses. Only took me a few tries.
- Very Unlucky Rock - Obtained via the treasure in Nazmir that has a 100% drop on it.
And the ones I consider sadistic:
- Dark Iron Baby Booties - Only one source, from the Relic Coffers in BRD, 5% drop chance.
- Robble’s Wobbly Staff - Firelands Trash, 1% drop from any of it. (Pretty much any cata raid works, but Firelands lets you kill a lot before you can exit and reset)
- The Stoppable Force - Sunwell Trash, 1% drop from any of it. (Again, any BC raid, but there’s a lot of trash in Sunwell before you can reset without killing any bosses)
And I’m still BEGGING Blizzard to lower the pet charm pet to 5,000 Charms. That’s MUCH more reasonable than 10k.
250 Charm pets go for 20-60k. 10,000 Charms is just begging for this pet to cost millions. This pet essentially costs 40 other pet charm pets, but has nothing unique to it except its color.
I am so happy I walked into SL with over 19,000 pet charms in my bank alts bank.
Fresh Level 10 Allied Race (Locked behind Chromie Time, so you can’t get these on a 50-60)
What do you mean locked behind Chromie…does that mean you have to be on chromie quest line or not?
The items won’t drop on Azeroth if you are out of Chromie Time. AKA level 50+.
I don’t know why they did it that way, but they did. Have a few friends who were farming items with me document those 4 as not dropping.
Rabbit’s Foot has an 80% drop chance from the Hyenas in Tanaris, but I spent a good 2.5 hours killing them and never got it. Meanwhile, my allied race got 4 in less than 5 minutes on the wolves in Elwynn which have a much lower drop rate.
EDIT: Apparently there’s more to the Ground Gear and possibly Large Slimy Bone than just Chromie Time. People in the WCP Discord spent hours farming them in Chromie Time and nada. My friend and I both got it on a fresh character within minutes.
My friend (on a level 20 unsubbed character) and my level 46 Druid ran Wailing Caverns last night and both of us looted the Large Slimy Bone from the Nightmare Ectoplasm mobs at the end fight.
Neither of us were in Chromie Time nor have either of us ever used it.
Large Slimy Bone
I have a lvl 45 rogue I took over to Wetlands and must of killed over 300 slimes there for the Large Slimy Bone…still couldn’t get it too drop, and even tried pick pocketing them and still no bone…
Yea, we’re trying to figure out what the criteria is.
The Bone and Gear are dropping for freshly made characters, but not previously existing characters.
I added alternative locations that don’t require Chromie Time to the big post.
If you don’t mind spoilers, I wrote a post on my blog about each of the items. All items collected on a max lvl toon, except for one. Also used a rogue to pickpocket.
Are the items tradable? Are they sellable on the AH? Can see botters exploiting this if so
Yes, they are all grey items and not soulbound. I see plenty listed on the AH now (for absurd prices, lol).