8.2 Mount Equipment and Water Strider

[Jops-zuljin]

taking Reaping away and adding Beguiling looks like a colossal mistake that will totally crush the game.

Unless Beguiling is an every week or most weeks thing… that seems unlikely.

There’s bad weeks and good weeks for affixes. That’s not new.

[Fixi-garrosh]

I dunno what you mean about that, but if you’re talking about Mount Equipment, everyone does see it differently. You may not see it as game crushing, and some others do, but in the end, we all see it as opinions at this point.

I understand you want to make them equivalent. But really, there are a lot of people that play M+ as the end game of WoW. Screwing with that is a big deal. I really doubt many people are playing in 2019 only because of a mount from 2013. I don’t see it, sorry.

So my prediction is this: the outcry over strider will amount to nothing - Bliz won’t change and players will start to play 8.2 and just forget about it. The real problem is mostly that 8.2 is late and people are bored. But after a while in 8.2, the affix is gonna be a serious problem for Bliz as M+ people stop playing the game at all.

[Pyromor-shandris (Pyromor)]

This is true about the out cry,but it also creates distrust in the action,can the player truly trust Blizzard now.Can they gain the players trust again after so many times? Only time will tell and time is very unforgiving an entity.

[Jops-zuljin]

WoW 9.0: All BFA mount equipment is now deprecated/disabled.

Characters that had mount equipment will be mailed ONE FREE new equipment item:

[Mount Everest] - mount equipment that makes you ‘rested’ whether mounted or not.

Other equipment options available later will include:

[Mount-ain out of a Mole-Hill] All forums posts automatically get 2 likes, your character /yells “I’m mounting my {name of mount!} Look at me!”

[Mount Ease] – Your mount is always a moose and while mounted your hat changes, your armor turns red and you look like a Canadian Mountie. Mount-up speed reduced by 50%.

[MAU-nt Loa] – You count double for Blizzard’s MAU metrics because you’re special. Movement speed reduced by 50%, but you go full sparkle-pony and earn a 1 silver for every critter you trample.

[Mount Chocula] – “ONE! TWO! THREE METERS WE’VE RUN! MUAHAHAH! FOUR FIVE SIX! METERS WE’VE RUN! MUAHAHA!” leaves a chocolately brown trail behind you and bats. May work as a water walking mount but only if you’re wielding a spoon.

[Sarallesta-moon-guard]

I really doubt many people are playing in 2019 only because of a mount from 2013. I don’t see it, sorry.

But you can’t blame a mount for ruining gameplay of others when the mount has nothing to do with it though.

[Jops-zuljin]

he affix is gonna be a serious problem for Bliz as M+ people stop playing the game at all.

Given that WoW has become little more than a lobby for Mythic+ players, you may be right.

It’s kind of sad that it’s been reduced to that.

[Brahmina-khadgar (Brahmina)]

Apparently Blizzard can only give us something new if they take something away first.

This has sadly seemed like Blizzard’s MO for a while now, especially for this expansion.

[Wuzeh-wyrmrest-accord]

taking Reaping away and adding Beguiling looks like a colossal mistake that will totally crush the game.

I’ll be honest with you, I’ll miss reaping.

As an affix, it was actually kinda fun. I doubt the Naga one will be as fun, just a less annoying G’huun.

[Fixi-garrosh]

Jops, they should hire you, all of those things would make players happy

[Fixi-garrosh]

But you can’t blame a mount for ruining gameplay of others when the mount has nothing to do with it though.

I’m not blaming the mount for anything, I’m saying as a “wow issue” its not big enough to move the needle for Bliz. The outcry is not going to translate to lost subscriptions.

I believe there was a mass exodus in 8.0, I saw 90% of my guild and friends list stop playing when they got to M+7. The system just wasn’t fun for them and they ran out of things to do (some told me exactly that). This is the stuff that moves the needle that Bliz needs to focus on.

The entire mount thing I’d have not done at all, or Island Expeditions or Warfronts and instead focus those energies on stuff that is important - M+, raids (which they did do well in BfA), professions…

NOW, that being said, mount equipment will have a positive impact on professions. That’s a good thing.

[Sarallesta-moon-guard]

I believe there was a mass exodus in 8.0, I saw 90% of my guild and friends list stop playing when they got to M+7. The system just wasn’t fun for them and they ran out of things to do (some told me exactly that). This is the stuff that moves the needle that Bliz needs to focus on.

I dunno what M+ has to do with Mount Equipment, but please, do not take this topic off track please.

mount equipment will have a positive impact on professions.

Will it? Because I do not see that, considering there is several things already in game with professions that you can already get that Mount Equipment will introduce.

[Pyromor-shandris (Pyromor)]

In otherwords,your guild hit burnout doing the same thing over and over.Imagine doing mythic grind for a reward with special effect that you want then imagine it being taken away.Now you’ll know how some with the mount feels.

[Fixi-garrosh]

Will it? Because I do not see that, considering there is several things already in game with professions that you can already get that Mount Equipment already has.

Totally will, I’m going to make a ton of gold off of this, I’m certain of it. Especially if they are character specific, this will be huge.

Consumables, which exist in the game, are not the same league as equipment. Goblins everywhere are rubbing their dirty hands right now in anticipation (me included).

[Sarallesta-moon-guard]

Consumables, which exist in the game, are not the same league as equipment

But work better than the mount equipment.

You do know once you replace something in the mount equipment slot, the existing one is gone. Now, walking walking, can only have 1 in bag, since it is “Unique”, and gotta go back and forwards to purchase that.

The Mount Equipment system is a huge failure.

[Pyromor-shandris (Pyromor)]

Oh,don’t tell me we have to go back and get another?

[Fixi-garrosh]

You do know once you replace something in the mount equipment slot, the existing one is gone. Now, walking walking, can only have 1 in bag, since it is “Unique”, and gotta go back and forwards to purchase that.

You have to make a global decision, it’s not meant for you to carry around stuff as needed. It is like gems - people don’t replace their gems multiple times all day long.

Consumables require stocking them, using them endlessly, restocking - I have access them now and I don’t use them, the benefit is not worth the hassle. The permanent fix for me to add water walking to a mount? Hell ya, I’m all over that. I will just ignore the other mount equips and continue on.

[Pyromor-shandris (Pyromor)]

Not if they’re Unique,just like our equipment you can only have one.I’ve about ready to say take the mount out of the game period that is just so wrong.

And while your at it take the flight out of all mounts ,I know you want that too,next.

[Urrik-moon-guard]

Those who are trying to reason here, simply cannot get through to people who either do not read, with understanding, enough to "get " that they can have what they want AND the strider owners can also, get what they want AT THE SAME TIME, or they simply do not care.

They are on the hunt to aggro other players for sport. This is fun for them. If this was not the case, they would realize that getting what the water strider owners want does not have to stop them from getting what they want as well.

Most of them already know this. They have simply come to realize that this is really important to some players, so the sport becomes luring them into meaningless circular discussions, while they actually enjoy the fact that someone else is going to lose something that they do not have, or want.

These are not the forums of old and trolls come in a variety of types these days. Some people love nothing more than to dig at another player just for the fun of it.

Sounds pretty negative doesn’t it and that is not usually where I come from, but if this is still being contested after all of the people who have explained it, there is simply no other explanation that makes sense.

Thank you Blizzard for giving players another excuse to divide the community, since you have dropped the ball on doing almost anything to actually help to bring players together. It seems that is not the “job” of the game developers anymore.

Really Sad and it bodes badly for the future of the game.
But don’t worry about me, Blizz. I am just another of those long time players who is barely hanging on by my fingernails these days and not feeling the love from the developers, or much of the community any more.

Of course, this does not apply to everyone. Those, to whom it does, know who you are.

+1, a thousand times over. Kyraz gets it.

[Sarallesta-moon-guard]

Ok, here on the PTR, lets look at Anti Daze for example: You think you’re going to make more gold off mount equipment, may want to rethink that.

Leather Barding: Prevents from being Dazed for 2 Hours (Quadruple for Leatherworkers)
https://i.imgur.com/aCNwXSH.png
Now, I would much rather purchase this over this.
https://i.imgur.com/aCNwXSH.png

Why? Lets just say I have to switch from the barding to water walking. Complete waste of time.

[Jops-zuljin]

Oh,don’t tell me we have to go back and get another?

I think Kiwi mentioned that you can have one equipped and one in your bag. After that, yes, back to MoP you go. Or leave one in your mailbox or something.