If a Horde mage did it, the bomb would blow up a sweet-faced gnome and a puppy who happened to be on deck, and it would be described as a low, underhanded trick.
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Youâre suggesting that both sides have competent mages? Because if Blizzard is to be believed, all the Horde has is Aethas Sunreaver, who can hardly be called competent.
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I dunno, theyâre still not shown as frontline fighters. Jaina on the ship was doing a ranged thing with a flying ship for cover.
Malfurion is a druid, not a mage.
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Linear Warriors, Quadratic Wizards
is the trope youâre looking for, and WoW is super guilty of it.
Also, WHY do we have a Hyperlink button if we canât embed links?
Aside from the PC mage/warlock? Yes. Both sides have competent mages. That they donât get to show off like Jaina does is another matter entirely.
She did have help, you know, not just from the Champion, but from the Outriggers as well. Note absence of magical flying ship and itâs battery of arcane cannons? Which strongly suggests that what she did at Lordaeron was a one-time stunt, not so casually repeated. Also keep in mind that she herself didnât actually sink the fleet, she was more of a transportation gimmick.
Maybe they figure that all the mages cancel each other out except Aethas and Jaina.
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Maybe youâre not, but thatâs the second time in the last couple of months that you argue with me and I donât understand why youâre arguing with me. Like the last time - when I brought up the council of chiefs - all Iâm doing is suggesting an alternative method of narrating the story that can flow with whatâs already been written and might help improve the story by preventing a singular character from eclipsing everything and everybody else. Yes, the writers need to want to write a story that isnât character oriented first, and in this particular issue, they need to want to write the Horde as willing to use their magecraft competently, but if they are going move away from what theyâve done, itâs best if they do so in a way that can be explained in the narrative.
One way (Iâve never suggested that my way is the only way) they can do that is having Horde mages that can cancel out Jainaâs magic so she doesnât dominate the military narrative for either side. It doesnât have to be one mage, it can be a group. Again, yes, the writers need to want this to happen for it to happen, Iâve made no claims otherwise. They canât simply have Jaina stop being powerful and active, because how would the narrative explain that in a way that doesnât feel forced. Yes, other characters are currently inactive and the narrative isnât explaining that either, and thatâs another issue that the writers need to deal with.
Oops! In this particular situation, Iâm just being facetious. But yeah, tone doesnât come through on the internet. Just imagine a wink or tongue-in-cheek emoji next to my previous posts in this thread.
The âcouncil of chiefsâ thing is a favorite solution of the story forum, but I honestly, truly donât think it would solve the Hordeâs problems in the game. It probably would work in real life, but the Hordeâs problem is the writers, not their form of government.
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To be fair, thatâs how things are actually going in TES. The Mageâs Guild has disbanded, the College of Winterhold is distrusted, and magic in general is viewed with immense suspicion by the nords. The slow decline of knowledge and civilization(just look at how deteriorated the roads are in Skyrim) from the Mythic Era to 4E has been a theme since Tribunal at least.
Itâs 3 ships you doofs.
Iâm afraid it suggests nothing like that. The âRule of Coolâ doesnât leave much room for immediate repeats. If they just repeated the earlier scene so soon it would feel tired and much less impressive or cool.
It is lazy to a degree, but it isnât entirely the writersâ fault. Power creep is baked into the very mechanics of the game. Players are meant to feel as if every level and every raid tier is bringing them to a whole new level of power. In order to maintain that fantasy we need to be given bigger and bigger threats to feel like weâre progressing.
It is the demands of gameplay punishing the story. The raid format is also what makes Warcraftâs stories so repetitive and predictable. But as you said, all this is the tip of the iceberg with the storyâs problems.
Because I played WC3 and the night elf campaign was my favorite by far. I also read War of the Ancients and found him to be the most relatable character to me. Easily my favorite of the three main elves the book was about.
I just tend to appreciate his personality. He is calm, wise, and powerful but he isnât beyond making mistakes. Unlike a lot of players I actually like his neutrality because it shows a sense of altruism many other characters lack. The ability to put the world ahead of his own personal wants and needs.
I also didnât give into the memehate and start despising him just because everyone else was.
Yah, but when your ranged thing can blast away whole armies from a place of complete safety and do the work an entire artillery team was struggling with⌠Why do you need the army again? Much less a lone but very elite warrior.
Also I know Malfurion isnât a mage. I was using the term as a stand in for the caster archetype.
you forgot the sleeper with dragons,
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Why would she take an epithet from one of her biggest failures? She was trying to do the right thing at Orgrimmar, but let herself get talked down for a bit of dragon D.
Our âsuperiorâ fleet got destroyed by Mary sue troll princess. Honestly with the rate fleets get destroyed in this game its meaningless fluff at this point.
Your superior fleet got destroyed by a then-superior fleet.
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And then comes parity. Ainât it great?
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Four years of being the superior fleet results in four months of parity?
![:thinking:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/thinking.png?v=6" ":thinking:")
What did being the superior fleet ever do? Which alliance victories resulted from it?