7/7 heroic raiding pretty much dead on bene alliance

just found out some of my raiding communities stopped raiding FL because H Rag on 25m is too hard for the majority. Even for my teams that killed h rag in 2nd-3rd week, the amount of effort to form a good roster is just not worth anymore. The fight lasts for 12-15mins, comp dependent (stacking hpala dks hunters), and 1 person making any mistake could wipe the whole raid. This kind of design just doesn’t fit classic.

Please consider nerfing Rag hp so even if we wipe, we don’t have to repeat another 10 mins of misery. There are too many ppl gave up at this point.

Thanks

No nerfs please I’m still progging it.

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Rag is not even hard. Just a long fight. But one of the most consistent scripted encounters I’ve ever done.

There are tons of mistakes you can make on Rag that don’t wipe the raid. The big challenge is having people not fall over to dumb stuff for 12 minutes. Lava waves and the dance are not difficult mechanics.

I cant even take this post seriously when you try and add a made up class that isnt even in the game. What is a

There is no such class a hpala.

I mean this is what people cheer at when they reverted the DS nerfs to the “original” state on the PTR forum section.

This is what we’re playing and I don’t think they will be doing any other changes until they have to PTR DS and come up with more “brilliant” decisions

It’s pure raid log… unless you have the stomach to run those inferno dungeons…

it’s not hard but people quit because they can’t clear all content. That’s what annoys me

do you recommend me to suck it up and transfer to horde?

After about 80 wipes the hard part is getting people to focus for 12-15m straight.

We have the same people dying every week and dumb deaths early.

The part right before the final phase is where people mess up since its all the mechanics at once.

I dont find the fight hard tbh.

https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/reports/wjdM9FLnY2KtkaD8?boss=1203&difficulty=4&wipes=1&type=deaths&cutoff=4

This is our yesterday prog.

Im showing ignored events after 4 deaths since its a wipe at that point.

Im Peeposcam

All of this being said i dont want any nerfs.

sounds like those people would leave after 1 kill if its nerfed anyway.

Heroic LK and beyond is actually challenging as wow xpacs move on, so players need to get better or accept not full clearing heroic

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Raiding is a group effort. You can’t blame only 1 person for failing.

Not adding to the conversation of the actual topic, cause I don’t have an opinion, but I have to mention that hpala would be referring to holy paladins.

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If you play a pumper meele dps come to Atiesh and kill it this week with my guild :slight_smile:

…on 10m

It is nerfed from what it was . they took 1 hole mechanics out of the fight

i really like the fight but yes its basically tuned to the point where people messing up destroy the entire pull and it’s quite long, i would also note that this fight is a semi nerfed version which in my opinion is probably one of the best decisions blizzard have made regarding cataclysm, i’ve done the geyser mechanic and i can tell you that its a source of insane frustration

gear will really carry eventually, especially if u are playing 25 man, its a pretty tight dps check even when you do the milk for most guilds

alliance is ofc dying, the end is inevitable, the same mistakes have been made again and the majority of the hardcore population already paid to become horde

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We on like 80 wipes

Next week for sure lmfao.

How much you paying this raid group for a carry, Drink?

The fight should get much more easier once everyone in your team gets fully geared and get their legendary staff.

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I’m next on staff too.

Issue is getting to last phase with no one dead.

People keep dying to stupid stuff.

Might be able to kill it this week, mostly learning last phase movements and soakers learning to soak. We’ve gotten way better at getting to that last phase without too many deaths. I think Rag is a much better boss than LK but that’s my opinion, feels less rng and I hated valkyrs.

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Yeah I like it a lot more than lich King.

Like here’s the log of our first five deaths for our Wednesday prog you can see it’s the same people dying pretty consistently.

https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/reports/wjdM9FLnY2KtkaD8?boss=1203&difficulty=4&wipes=1&type=deaths&cutoff=5

I’m Peeposcam.

That’s all wipes

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odd i could’ve sworn 10man was as hard as 25man. Guess not, huh.