6k+ Member Horde AV Premade Discord. (US/EU)

That site only tracks people listed on Warcraft Logs…

Newsflash… not everyone raids. In fact, a large portion of the classic player base doesnt raid, has yet to raid or doesnt log their raids. You cant base census data off of a site, that by its own admission, doesnt even account for an unknown portion of the server population…

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Yet everyone says more Alliance raid, Alliance is the pve faction, and Alliance racials/pallies are better for pve. So if your complaint about that is that it solely uses geared players that aren’t useless in pvp- then surely you realize that means the imbalance is actually going to be considerably worse than what it shows.

discord.gg/avpremade

discord.gg/avpremade Here is the alliance one. 20k Strong

Im saying that raid logs cannot be extrapolated to give any type of reliable census of a servers population. Not remotely.

PS. if you think a raid geared, leather armor wearing warrior isnt useless in pvp, i can see why you fail to understand this.

You do know that MC and Ony both have great pvp gear in them- BRE, Hand of Rag, blastershot, CoD, and various off pieces that are better than dungeon blues.

And the amount of good pvp gear in raids over dungeons increases with every raid. A fair amount of tier gear has substantial stamina, and while 8/8 tier may not be current bis for actual raiding for every class, it often is for pvp before you start ranking.

Did they hide it in Vanilla?

My main in vanilla was alliance on a pve server, yet I did mostly pvp. Assuming that just because one rolled on a pve server means that they have no interest in pvp is more than just a bit narrow-minded.

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So you’re telling me you think the same percentage of players on pve servers pvp as those on pvp servers?

Who knows, maybe? PvE server only means you don’t want the risk of getting ganked while leveling. They still have wpvp.

I’m saying that its arrogant to assume a players intentions just because of their server choice. They could not be fans of world pvp but still love bgs. That’s not that hard to believe. Organized pvp is more fun for some people than the chaos and unpredictability of being ganked on a pvp server.

I don’t think it’s arrogant to assume that when we’re literally seeing that through queues. Almost every pve server is stacked with Alliance, almost every pvp server is stacked with horde- if you’re right, then we end up having the queues, if I’m right, then you end up having the queues.

So who has queues?

this is how imagine most people get aids.

where does it say in the rules you cannot join av at the same time as your friends. just imagine they are multi boxing. same thing.

they see you trolling, they hating. trying to catch you riding dirty.

What a concept. And with cleverness you’ll be able to bring those number up regardless of who gets the queue at the same time or not.

Being in discord with people who are in the same AV is not cheating. And until Blizzard says it is your full of pooh.

I may add that this exact same thing was going on in WotLK.

You are obtuse.

Cheating is circumventing the game restrictions to get a pre-made into AV.

If that was the case Blizzard would have stopped it from happening years ago. No matter how you feel about it until Blizzard agrees with you none of what you said is correct.

Is there anyway for Blizzard to stop premades from happening?