The way it shows on patchnotes and did on ptr is not too clear,and my btags can’t really tell for sure.
Whats the key level we want to obtain a 15 next reset?
A clear source and clarification would be appreciated.
- Have fun. They changed the wording to include the regular -1 and the -4 they will be adding to that.
My group hasn’t been able to time anything higher than a 17, which we struggle with. Though maybe my infinite stars will give us the boost we need 
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Thing is, going by ptr, it seems like its still a 19, and some of my btags (and even one with 2.7k io) says its unlikely that they will downgrade a 19 into a 14 following reset, or requiere people who wants a 18 to do a 23 in a week where timing a 23 is just not really possible in many cases. So its a bit confusing and the patchnotes don’t really clarify (and honestly had mistakes as well: claiming a nazjatar WB was in this s4 or that keystones will scale to 10% per level,up from 8% (which already happened in s3,making this nonsensical).
Can I borrow your infinite stars? I promise that I’ll return them… eventually.
I got twilight devastation and it suuuuuucks. 
If you want a +15 next week, you will want to do a +19 this week. Happy dungeon-ing this weekend all! 
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My in game ticket says to complete a +20. Which one is true?
https://i.imgur.com/nNaqSfF.png
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LOVE YOU FOREVER! ty for confirmation
According to Lythriks (another blue) you need 20. Can we get a clarification?
Thanks for the clarification!
You are awesome,man.
I thought it was the usual -4 decay for patch on top of the normal -1 decay? hmm
Bornakk and Lythriks are now locked in an epic thumb war, the winner will determine whether we need a 19 or 20.
Cheers for Bornakk!
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It reduces by 4 levels so do the math!
For whats worth: i checked the S4 preview/patchnotes again and noticed they edited it to remove “an additional”, probably to avoid confusion due to wording. So just a 19 should be safe now.