People wanted classic because it was different than retail. You poo poo it as if that is not a valid reason. Many play because 40 mans are unique to classic. It is a very big change, and it is right to be considered fully and thoughtfully. Your desire to jump on a change immediately is actually how retail became what it is. Wasn’t classic for players who dont enjoy retail systems and each xpac change?
We’re not at the pop numbers of Classic '19, far from it, so there is a real concern with 40m being unsustainable across the board.
ZG and AQ20 will be always an option for those who do not want 40 man raids. And there’s also Scholo/Strat/UBRS/LBRS/BRD who fits with smaller raids. Much more smaller raid options than 40 man raids. I understand the loot tier issue though but it is what it is. Nothing more beautiful than Onyxia taking a deep breath in a 40 man raid.
That’s valid, but most people ask for 40s only because “they like it” without leaning into the problems and requirements for players to manage those raids.
It’s a selfish angle to expect everyone to do 40s because YOU like 40s. There should be a choice between 20 and 40 sizes. Period.
Of 2004 Yeah? I’d very much to see those numbers. Would be great to change my idea of what was happening back then while I was playing.
it’s why I play.
or rather was I did.
The objective going forward should be to give people options, not remove content that is already in place. Add a 20 man option like they did in later expansions. Everyone can play the content they enjoy. It just seems foolish to take away any existing content.
They already said they cant do dynamic raid sizing. So in the spirit of classic and vanilla wow; lets keep it at 40. Lets not be selfish and lazy just because we don’t like joining guilds and socializing. Thats not in the spirit of classic.
Nah, now you’re splitting the players up with different versions of raids. Then you have to consider will players do both. How do you balance the payoff vs. greater difficulty. It opens up a whole new slew of problems.
The game was better when it was one raid size, one difficulty.
selfish and lazy
lets force people to organize 40 man teams like it’s a full time job cause it “is cooler”
just stop.
Force? I’m sorry I didn’t realize I was talking to a child. You don’t like classic raiding, theres other games.
Found your problem here. Too many small guilds.
We need bigger raids. 40 man is needed.
Times have changed. The age of 40-man raiding is over.
Tell me you never organized a raid without telling me you never organized a raid.
Do you even organize raids or do you just like getting carried?
What makes it not worth playing? Why does having 40 people in a group make the game more enjoyable? They can easily obtain the same difficulty level of a 40 man in a 20 man.
Counterpoint, in the spirit of the season of discovery lets not do 40 mans and try something new which is the whole point of this seasonal server
LF15 MC must have full T6.5 checking logs
I’m on video raid-leading heroic bosskills.
difficulty? why is that an objective. I just want to kill big bosses with large groups.