3s is done, just let it go

troll or not we have a contender for the worst post of 2023

a long way to go, but hard to predict if it could get much worse

now back to the studio for the weather

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Shuffle is here to stay. It is blizzards most successful pvp mode in a while. And apparently most people love it. Is it easier? Good. No one wants to sit in lfg for hours behind denied because not everyone is a 20+ year veteran multiglad stock broker who can put in 12 hours a day to be better than most others. LFG was never for casuals and if they did form a group they just got stomped. There is a big difference in trying to improve, being able to improve, and having the time to improve. And not everyone gives a crap about being part of the r1 or glad elites. Solo shuffle fixed a player made problem of WoW pvp elitists in arena, and now those that are elitists or think they are, are mad, when numbers show majority of the pvp playerbase enjoys shuffle. We enjoy it so much we will sit an hour in queue over dealing with the toxic LFg mess for 3s. No one who enjoys rss today is sorry that they arent fodder anymore for your boring toxic psuedo glad climb in 3s. The world and gaming is evolving, sorry you are left behind.

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Hey guess what no one cares what you have to say.

Removes RSS. Buff Rogues

Great post.

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Pretty much this.

I do like shuffle though for a lot of reasons. It was a super easy way to get transmogs and farm honor/conq for alts when I Queue at normal human times. The variety IS very fun, and my main spec (boomy) is way better in shuffle than 3s (boomy has the worst self healing/survivability of any class in the game, so dampening hurts it less than any other class).

I DO think the lfg tool is absolute hot garbage and needs to be updated.

However, the vast majority of peoples’ complaints are social issues that have nothing to do with how the game is set up and are complaints about human decisions, not developer ones.

Further, solo shuffle is massively inflated because its easier to play, and people like that. If the shuffle mmr was recalculated (which will never happen) to look like actual 3s, im sure people would play more 2s/3s.

We might get a kneejerk buff to 2v2 and 3v3 next season along with a nuke to shuffle to bring it more in line with the other brackets instead of being, what, 700-1000 points higher or something.

It’ll always be the most popular because you queue and play so having rating gains scale off participation like that is just kind of iffy.

How many post are you going to make about “hating normal arenas”?
You’re a 1500 player that finally got an achievement higher than that in a game mode that takes less skill.
Now that you 100% couldn’t even reach 1500 in the 3s bracket with the lack of inflation you choose to trash it.
Some of us enjoy teamwork and comms.

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man i love the hard capped players that suddenly get “rating” from inflated RSS and want to try to ego people and determine how the game works

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Right, but mmr does that naturally in every single game. The more players you have, the more variance and higher mmr you’ll see, ESPECIALLY as more people come in at the lower end.

It’s actually crazy though to see that people are literally 750-1000 rating higher than where theyd realistically fall in 3v3. I would love to be able to view all the data of players vs percentiles.

Tbh i have no issues with cosmetics being accessible to most of the population, i just think that they should have to be earned still, which isnt really the case currently.

Aotc mounts are a good example and fair comparison to 1800 usually, with gladiator being more akin to mythic raid clearing between HOF and prepatch and and r1 equating to HOF.

However, 1800 in solo shuffle seems a lot more similar to normal raid “difficulty” in terms of reaching max rewards and thats a real bummer. Not because of any elitist mentality, just that it really takes away from the accomplishment :confused:

All titles in rated PvP where intended to be % of group. The bracket ratings stayed somewhat the same since they introduced the hard number equals a title.
They need to re-implement the % for title.
You’ve got 2k players holding S to back pedal.

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let arena die in peace

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Even they reward a dragon for solo shuffle, you probably won’t get it anyway.

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Hmm.

Well I’ve never made the claim LFG is a good experience

Devolving idiocracy style, and in what way am I left behind? anyone that enjoys the real brackets will dominate the pinata bracket, even at the disadvantage of playing something that isn’t meta against the odds, for example lacking a mortal strike, or being the kill target in almost every lobby.

Anyone that thinks they’re “pseudo glad” capable will have absolutely no problem finding success in solo shuffle lol

yeah that’s one way to look at it

Make Gladiator for Solo Q because the game is going to slowly lose players for pvp and eventually die otherwise, if you want a title for players to achieve just make Rank 1 for 3v3 ONLY so that people are forced to make a TEAM again like back in BC and Wraith, to get that rank otherwise it is going to be just Rank 1s anyways and no Glad’s hardly because of the way inflation and LFG is dead.

I’d rather it stay the way it is than just give it out like candy, it’s supposed to be prestigious not a participation trophy.

The only people that want it for RSS are people who have never even been close to the rating they’re at in RSS, and now that they feel 2.4 to be obtainable they want gladiator in that bracket. Everyone else knows it’s bad for the game.

If RSS wants their own mount, that’s fine but make it something like one of the unused models for Dragon riding. Proto-drake/Velocidrake/Wylderdrake

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They’ll probably toss a mount up at like 3.3k rating next season.

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Frozen?

/10

That’s pure copium.

You could nerf Shuffle and buff bracket and people would still rather play Shuffle.

LFG is a garbage tool and very little people care about PvP enough to run pre mades.

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Nope. If youre think you’re good enough, then find some friends and give it a shot!
Nothing wrong with havign a social component and teamwork in an mmo.
I wouldnt hate having a different reward in solo shuffle tho.

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The ptero is way cooler than the wyvern dragon we have on live imo. Wish they had more customizations D:

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