37 % of 120s have Pathfinder part 2

I’ve never seen anything where they said anything like that. I call BS. Source required.

I should have had flying a long time ago but I HATE the mechagon zone :frowning:

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Out of all the reps I’ve done (you can check, I’ve done a LOT of them)

Timbermaw style was always my favorite.

Nothing stopping you from getting rep but you. Just need time and Patience.

You’ve never seen a lot of things, that doesn’t make it BS.
In multiple interviews regarding flying, Blzizard stated they disliked flying because of the difficulty involved in creating content around it.

You can google up the multiple interviews throughout the years where devs complain about implementing flying in TBC. Of course, you believe for some reason that the devs would never, ever, say such a thing.

They just restrict flying for laughs. At the cost of subs no less.

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I am aware. And in none of them do they say anything about not wanting to do it because it takes too much time and resources or that any time or resources will be saved leaving it out.

They’ve said it limited what they could do with the world. They’ve said they didn’t like that players could just land on what they wanted to do and skip everything else. They’ve said a lot of things, yes. But… They’ve NEVER said “ehh, we’re too lazy to bother with that so we ain’t doin’ it!”.

Your claim, on you to prove, not on me to Google anything. You’re full of malarkey.

I don’t feel like it to be honest. I am sure I can eventually dig up the interview, but, don’t want to when ultimately, it won’t change anyone’s view on the matter.

You are fully focused on your view, so I’ll simply let it be instead of trying to bash each other on the nose.

Combining them as a shared rep then comparing to exclusive reps that only even get half the playerbase is incredibly dishonest. Your only apples-to-apples options are:

  1. Compare relative participation among the whole playerbase: combine the Naz reps and compare to shared reps only, understanding that the combined one will double-dip slightly (loses to all but Mechagon, which is itself on trial so to speak).

  2. Same goal, but attempt to control for discrepancy between factions and potential double-dips between people who play both: combine them, and compare to two combined exclusive reps of approximately equal relevance to each other (dramatically loses any such combination, even the ones with no reward at all like Nazmir + Drustvar)

  3. Measure relative participation within one faction: compare exclusive Naz reps to other exclusive reps of the same faction (loses dramatically to all of them on both sides).

No rep in the game even has those rewards outside of the AR reps. Throughout 8.0 all of the zone reps were borderline useless (slight efficiency upgrades to fundamentally useless professions…yay) – you wanted Champions for neck level and maybe 2-3 people in the guild who had turtles for feasts. That was it. 8.1 only added incentive to Proudmoore and Zandalari. 8.2 outright removed all reason for new characters to bother with Champions and Tortollans.

Mech and Naz are the only reps in the game currently worth anything. At all. They have been for almost 6 months now. If you’re farming benthic tokens in any capacity you’ll inevitably get Naz exalted on accident. Rustbolt already has any momentum it’ll ever get from upcoming ARs, and people mostly seem to be more excited about vulpera anyway.

Plus if they’re not going all the way to exalted, it means they stopped spending time there pretty quickly, which is itself a pretty bad review of the content. It only takes a few weeks to get exalted in these areas even doing the bare minimum, and again, anyone farming benthic tokens will get it on accident.

Let’s put it this way. We have more 120s exalted with Argus than we do with shared 8.2 zones by almost half. Beats Tortollans and roughly tied with Champions too – those reps have been current content longer than Argus was, and that’s counting a whole lot of freshly-rolled players and characters who largely skipped Legion.

You realize a ton of people quit before flying even came out, right? BFA was a bust since after the first AoC when it was clear they weren’t going to fix as many of the big issues as people had hoped / asked for.

So you hated doing the world quests, but in the same sentence admitted they were the only thing for you to do. Maybe you should quit.

If you’re not on a raid team/mythic dungeon group and don’t want to PvP, what else is there to do besides slog through pugs/LFR and do world quests?

I have quit btw. I haven’t been subbed in months.

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I didn’t know you could post on the forums if you weren’t subbed!

I can understand the 37 percent stat. I got pathfinder on one of my characters. The other 24 didn’t unlock pathfinder but they didn’t need to.

Maybe with patch 8.3 players return but yeah right now BFA patchfinder is on pace to be a decrease in participation compared to Legion patchfinder.

That’s been the case for months now AFAIK.

Pathfinder is account wide on the API – it pops on other characters as soon as you log in on them.

Furthermore when the thread started several months ago, almost all achievements across categories were showing account-wide. Armory was showing my main’s mythic kills and Naz bodyguards and such on my alts. I commented when the thread got necro’d that it doesn’t seem to be doing that anymore, but that it wouldn’t have been hard for wargraphs to puzzle out which characters were account linked after the fact.

EDIT: it seems to be visible account-wide again now. I’m not sure why Armory keeps waffling on that, but right now my lock alt is showing all achievements from all toons for content it hasn’t done or in a lot of cases even stepped into – Mythic kills, Feats, Murder Force, even Horde reps from my DH.

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/nerzhul/vellar/achievements/exploration/battle-for-azeroth

So yeah, I’d say it’s safe to assume all achievement stats on wargraphs are effectively synced across the account, save for achievements that popped after the last time an individual toon was logged into to force the Armory update. Within reason, they can be taken as a rough substitute for account percentages.