3450 Titan Residuum Down The Toilet. Same Piece Again!

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1st azerite 415 piece, shoulders. BiS.
2nd azerite 415 piece, chestplate. Secondary BiS
3rd azerite 415 piece, helm. WiS
New rule. Same helm or just as bad, means I’m saving up and choosing my BiS.
4th azerite 415 piece, helm. Secondary BiS.

Had I been in your situation, I would have saved up. To get the same piece twice, means I’ve wasted my time gambling at that point and need to take control over the situation. I’m more pessimistic than anything (assumed this week would be another 410 chest and WiS/duplicate azerite piece) but this week surprised me. Gotta have a plan of action in place or the randomness of this game will just make you bitter.

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Just wait until a Gilgoblin gets ahold of all that titanium.

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You can choose to blow your Titan Residuum on cheap RNG chances, or you can save it up like an adult and get what you actually want/need. You are CHOOSING the unrewarding mechanic. That’s on you.

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To set the record straight, I’m not blowing anything, I’m stating that there is player choice then giving players a bad choice. Maybe you think there should be the option to take the bad choice, but since you are clearly stating it’s a bad idea, why is it there? Enforcing bad behavior, that’s player choice for you? Okay.

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Just another weak and poorly implemented system designed to keep you grinding.

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It’s not for most players since they majority skipped town.

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if you think about 5 weeks too long to get a GUARANTEED BIS PIECE OF YOUR CHOICE

then that is just sad.

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The game is designed to push you towards said unrewarding, random mechanic…

Yeah, you do have the choice, but it should really be on Blizzard to design a game that doesn’t rely on crummy, RNG, mobile game mechanics. Don’t blame the victim.

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How does it push you towards the unrewarding random mechanic? If you dont care what piece you have and just want ilvl, you can buy a random, if you are someone who cares about BIS, to get a GUARANTEED BIS OF YOUR CHOICE will take awhile, the game has NEVER allowed you to literally buy a BIS item (i understand there may be 1 or 2 cases in the past.)

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The unrewarding mechanic is presented as far cheaper, and combined with mechanics like War/Titanforge, there’s a huge emphasis on taking the easy way out and hoping for a ‘good roll’. As the OP has demonstrated, the odds aren’t exactly great, but it’s exploitative of pure, human psychology.

Game developers have hired actual behavioral psychologists to design these systems, it’s not an accident that they prey on this kind of behaviour. Yes, you can get a piece of ridiculously good gear with a lot of grinding and a lot of patience, but there’s a reason they place it at a seemingly prohibitive price point.

The entire residium system is a complete joke at best, and anti-player at worst.

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The OP is just the type of player Blizz is looking for.

Once you get older, you will realize the cycle.

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had the same thing happen oddly enough.

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I have gotten the same shoulder piece four times now from turning in 1725 TR. I already submitted a ticket at three, and I will wait until number five to submit another asking to look into this because there is a bug.

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welcome to rngcraft…lmao.

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I got 5 of the same shoulders… holy priest item. bugged if you ask me!

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Yea justice/valor/honor/conquest merchants was a whole let better than this slot machine garbage.

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If someone gets the same exact thing 3 times in a row, it is NOT random.

Ever heard of dual wielders being happy that a 400ilvl weapon dropped two cycles in a row on the DS WF?

Of course not, because RNG is a lie, only certain items are coded to drop repeatedly on the loot tables they are using.

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Let’s play a game!

  • Grab a pair of dice, roll them 10x in a row. Note each combination as it comes out, even if its a duplicate. We’ll call this Group A.
  • Now, roll the same pair of dice 10x more, but this time take note of duplicate values and eliminate those combinations from the counter (i.e. 2+2 and 1+3 give you 4, but only one of those combinations counts), rerolling as necessary, until you have 11 distinct combinations. We’ll call this Group B.

Group A is random. Each roll of the dice is independent of the following roll, and duplicates are possible every single roll. This is what RNG in the game is. Each roll of the internal number generator is independent of the next, which is why we can end up with 5x duplicates on the same vendor.

It’s the same reason someone might get Invincible off the LK in 10 turns, and another person might not get it in 10 years. Each time he’s looted the RNG algorithm rolls, and either produces a value of Invincible = yes or Invincible = no. Doesn’t matter if you’ve looted him 2400 times already, those past rolls don’t help your current roll.

Group B is controlled. Each roll of the dice is counted against duplicates, and those duplicates removed, guaranteeing equal representation of all possible values once.

This is the thing to which Watcher alluded as a history of drops tracking algorithm for future implementation. Of course, don’t expect a fully controlled system, but something better than Group A. Coming Soon™.

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When you gamble, the house usually wins. :woman_shrugging: Blizzard thinks we love this system

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If you only play one spec, you should save for the piece you want.

If you play more than one spec, there’s not really an issue.

It’s literally gambling, what were you expecting.