The warlock pets are badly nerfed, as the title says. My voidwalker lost about 1,000 hp, and my succubus/incubus nearly as much. I’m not sure on damage numbers exactly, but that also seems fairly reduced, as my VW and incubus now hold substantially less agro. I haven’t tried my imp, but I imagine it’s the same. I didn’t see any mention of this in the patch notes; was this intentional?
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Can confirm. Pet’s lost so much health. Void Walker compared a hunter pet is just useless now. We heal less vs mend pet, they have less dmg then hunter’s pet, the only thing going for VW was it’s HP and sac.
Not to mention Succy only has like 850 HP now at level 30.. This is okay for pve in a sense.. but in any form of PvP this is gonna die in 2 GCD’s now, even worse if you are running SL. Lol. You also nerfed succy dmg by a bit. Lash of Pain was near 70-80 dmg w/ over 200 SP.. Now it’s 56?.. It’s a 12sec CD.. come on
I hope this is not intentional or just a bug.. casue this just gutted warlock pets so much.
Side note - Gives us back 30yrd fear, and change touch of the grave back, 25sec ICD is too much, make it 5-8sec or just revert it back to 10% proc chance and no ICD.
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Yup! Spent all day dueling after servers went up.
Did alright the first few…
Then people found out about the pet nerf.. including myself.. (unlisted in patch notes or i am missing it?).
Pet 1 spotted every single duel. Cant even get a health funnel started before its dead.
Soul link has been the duel spec all beta.
I know that most people on these forums dont care about the tournament or pvp on general but… wow.
Completely destroyed the class 2 days before a $100,000 tournament.
Insane.
My succubus does less damage and has 1.2k hp.
Thats 1-2 shots from a geared lvl 30.
Completely wild.
Thanks blizzard.
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Fear 30 yards will just be obnoxius… its already the best cc in the game, it needs some drawback. Fear and charm together with an unkillable pet and 30yard fear is broken. I get its beta and all classes are whining for every drop of power beacuse they are scared once beta is over that they wont see changes fpr a while, but we have to think about the health and balance of the game.
Blizzard has noted that to give they have to claw something back, be careful.
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Thats a pvp issue, not a pve issue.
pve goes first.
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It would take my a boomie like 15 seconds to kill your pet… and i would have to focus it completely and hard caat into it while being feared, charmed, exausted… if warlocks dont want their pets ill take it as boomie! 1.2k hp is fine i wont complain.
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You are speculating. Go duel a warlock and watch how fast the pet dies. Then come back and tell me that makes sense.
My succy having 1.2k is because im full BIS. Its about 800hp otherwise.
Warlock pets aren’t like other class pets.
Dead warlock pet = dead warlock.
My pet dies faster than my feldom summon can go off.
If you think that makes anysense, I have nothing left to say to you. Enjoy your boomy.
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So lemme get this right?.. 30yrd fear is obnoxius… but a BM hunter having 3 pet’s causing insane amounts of push back is not? Give me a break, oh it’s gonna get even worse casue the hawks are prob gonna benafit from 30% increase attack speed w/ talent, not to mention its baseline 35yrd where warlocks w/ talents is 36yrds.
We currently have no counter to hunters outside seduce hunter, fear pet and try and close the gap… O wait.. Hunter is gonna Arcane/Multi and maybe an amied shot my succy in 2 GCD’s and it’s over and im gonna die casue hunter is just gonna out range me the whole time.
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You are cherry picking a single matchup of a class that counters you. That 30 yard fear will dominate all the other classes… Don’t bring all the classes UP to lvl 30 hunters.. they are overtuned at low lvls always have been. How about thinking about a bigger picture than lvl warlock vs hunter specifically, and consider the entirety of wow pvp, world pvp, end game bgs etc.. Hunters aint gonna be able to dent you with full talents.. locks going to be near indestructable.. now add all your control ontop… sure, hunters might be able to still kite you at 40 yards, so why not make fear 40 yards ? Thtat wont have any other ramificaitons anywhere else surely…
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This thread is about whether the very large pet nerf was intentional or a bug, and trying to understand what changed, not debating hunter/warlock balance.
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wym? I’ve been pulling 3+ mobs at a time the whole beta.
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Fair enough. Sorry to derail it. I’ll leave it alone haha <3
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Aff and just random quest gear. I do RFC and WC quest so I get 2 blue spellpower staffs.
I haven’t tested today after the nerfs buf before I was just multidotting 3. pet tanks 1 I draintank1 and I fear one with dots.
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The comment is not just about hunter’s, im pointing out the absurd statement of 30yrd fear is OP.. It’s not, It’s the fact i have ZERO counter play vs them, this wont change much at level 60 either unless our burst goes through the roof like old days of classic with soulfire / shadowbolt crits.
Also 30yrd fear wont dominate other classes, I can do that already with 20yrd fear and seduce, It’s just simple fact a good hunter wont ever let me get in 20yard to even cast fear, and even if they do.. there just gonna run 2-3yrds out and cast wont go off, Now lets say i have deathcoil.. which is 30yrds, Im gonna have to be atleast with in 15yards when casted or they are gonna recoil 5 yards and fear wont land and thats assuming they didn’t already nuke my succy beforehand, starting to see the problem?.. In old days casts would go off even if they broke max distance, that’s not the case anymore. What good hunter is gonna let me in 15yrds of them? None lol. This plays into pet nerf’s of warlock… If hunter nukes my succy before i can even land a seduce it’s GG.
This is not just about 30yrd range.. They gutted my pets so now i have even less a chance to catch a hunter. I have not even begun to talk about rogues being able to do same from stealth… or druids opening and bleeding succy to death.. the list just goes on and on, nerfing HP of pets directly effects warlocks so much it’s not even funny.
I can’t imagine this is not a bug. A voidwalker can’t even tank a mob… and the damage numbers no longer match the character sheet stats for the pet.
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Are you high?
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? What Would you rate higher? Long duration cc that fully disables player action, with no pre requisite condition, no cooldown, doesnt immediately break on damage. Id wager its probably on par with poly, due to poly longer duration and range, but breaks on any damage (so any dotted or engaged char etc is safe)
The CC that doesn’t send the mob running straight into 300 other mobs and pull them back to you.
Banish, poly, trap etc are all much better CC.
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I can also report that something has seriously changed for the worst for Warlock pets. Not just health pool but also how much harder they’re getting hit by mobs in pve.
Doesn’t feel right.
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Levelled my warlock after these nerfs and i was consistantly killing 2-3 level 20 mobs (as a level 20) with 100% efficiency while i had my succubus pet out playing a life drain tank build as soon as i got fel concertration, i handed in all my quests and i was doing the same at level 27. I was in questing greens with 1 crafted blue belt 1 dagger from DM. I had 46 spell power after using 5 spell pot (1s each) and 8 spell weapon oil (1 silver per 5 hours).
Warlock is probably the one of the 3 strongest classes for solo questing.
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