RIP Frost Mage, Might as well remove the Talent tree

Before we begin, yes the nerf to the ice lance was needed. I agree.

However, Stripping Winters chill of crit to add 25% damage to buff AoE on an already intentionally gutted AoE is a slap to the face. You want single target? Sure, but what does the frost mage have now? A frost blast that costs more mana, low damage and is to replace rank 1 frostbolt.

I’ve yet to see a mage, much less a frost mage do any dps comparable to the other classes, hunter, warlock, priest, paladin etc.

wtf blizzard? I was excited for Mage and even with the AoE gut, im like yeah itll be good. Nope. Every other class feels better than mage right now.

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We’re level 30 dude. I am maining mage but understand that. Melee classes are full auto attacking with white dmg being their #1 form of dmg. We don’t have that.

We will scale substantially better at higher level due to the SP gear will provide. Balancing at 30 would be insane. Make gameplay fun, balance happens at 60.

Frost and Arcane werer playable prepatch and are still playable. Fire still up in the air right now.

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It’s balanced for lvl 30 streamer tournament currently. Not lvl 60.

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Ice Lance was fine if you’re of average sp and leveling. This pvp tournament got people min maxing and stacking so much so causing it to hit a bit harder but still needed a frozen target and to actually crit. And the crying followed. That’s fine tho. I’ll just play arcane instead, really good changes there.

people actually believe this

:clown_face:

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I mean… Did you see the changes to Elemental shaman? At this point it’s far worse of a spec and GOOD LORD the nerf to fire nova

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PvP players were the ones crying about Ice Lance so yeah

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mages recieved massive amounts of changes and buffs this patch and your still crying

other specs and classes have gotten no love on any of the patches and are still being ignored you ungrateful mages

Weird. I’ve played a hunter, warlock, priest, and mage on Forever. The mage easily out-damages the priest and warlock and almost beats the hunter. With the summon drinks, I have like 5 seconds of downtime every couple of fights to top off.
Contrast with my priest that takes forever to kill something, has to use wand unless I want to end the fight completely OOM…

And yeah, my mage is a frost mage.

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Imagine being a Mage, Blizzard’s most favored class, and still complaining

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IKR? Fire Nova would get maybe two uses a fight, provided I had the mana on my ele shaman. Usually near the start of the fight, and usually at the end to finish the critter off. Now its just a waste of mana because literally anything else is better damage for the cost.

Weird, every mage i see sits at the bottom. Even my own mage thats frost. so i don’t see your point.

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It said they significantly reduced the mana cost too, was the damage just nerfed more than the mana cost?

Sorry not trying to turn this into an Ele post, just saw that lol

They’re making frost a definitive pvp spec by trying to bring back CoC shatters. We still have arcane, fire and fire/frost hybrid for pve.

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nerf? its at 200% down from 300%
do you hit for 400 now instead of 500. not much of a nerf when classes can engage you at all.

to top that off-- you now get freezing status from more skills, so you get

more instant ice lances

Either way, the reduced mana cost for the totem doesn’t make up for the amount of damage that was nerfed it looks like.

Probably should make this an ele post since some people put waaaay too much feelings into a spec to where it’s impossible to convince of them out of something.

I was critting for 346 on my mage. That requires frozen proc and the crit. Was basically just a frost bolt without any chill.

Ele needs lots of love. Chain Lighting is so iconic it should be like the main ability. I was just playing WC3 and love it so much. If they let alliance sky elf be shaman that’s what I’d be playing instead.

fire nova went from like 150+ dmg to 68-78 and 170 mana to 120 mana xD

you already have 50% crit chance from shatter (and 100% crit dmg from iceshard) lol how much more crit do you want lol.

Honestly the nerfs probaly wasnt enough tbh for frost mages. but we shal see granted we only have lvl 30 testing and thing can change at max level though

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