Feral changes are BAD

Bring back Tiger’s fury.

Get rid of this powershift thing. No one can be happy about those changes.


EDIT: Ferals are NOT rogues, we are druids , and if talents aren’t going to support our hybrid playstyle, gear needs to support it.

Shifting Power is missing the mark on so many level.

The only silver lining that I see with the addition of this talent is the addition of hybrid stats onto our gear and hopefully make designer not think of us as Rogues in furr.


EDIT 2: With the addition of Power Shift , Furor got a slight rework.

Now going bear form will wipe all the energy you had in cat form , on top of the mana cost.

Punishing Feral druids even more when they use their utility.

Let us keep energy from cat > bear - revert the Furor change



Absolutely HUGE win on getting us our hybrid identity back and stepping away from “Feral are some kind of rogues and nothing else”

Adjustment to the Furor talent would leave feral in an awesome state to walk into Forever.

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It was a compromise that the discord had theorized as one potential solution to power shifting.

I like it, and Zirene’s explanation made sense.

Was probably the best possible outcome to satisfy the community as well as the balance concerns/rotational concerns.

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Its just a worst Tiger’s fury, that cost mana.

It is NOT GOOD.

Also, the class discord lol. what a great reference.

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Do not bring Tiger’s Fury back please. It was doing way too much: damage steroid plus resource generation.

This change is intended so Ferals have to make a choice now:

Do I want to use my mana to do more damage?

Do I want to use my mana to heal?

Do I want to use my mana for utility/mobility?

Whereas before you didn’t have to make a choice at all: you used Tiger’s Fury for damage, and then you used your mana for healing and/or utility and mobility.

You shouldn’t get to do all at once without any drawbacks.

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I mean, they banned me there because I didn’t like powershifting and spoke up about it.

This is a good compromise. While I preferred to not use mana in the rotation I can see why they did it. Atleast now we don’t need a jank macro.

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i’m assuming you’ve gotten the talent and used it to see how it feels right?

Powershifting is DUMB

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It’s dumb and takes away the hybrid fantasy that has been there forever. Power shifting was idiotic and was never intended.

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I rather do somthing i never done before. why do you want to play retail on classic, or classic classicified. do somthing new time will move on. i want to play fun games with rewarding systema and old blizzard nailed that.

once apon a time…

How does it take away the hybrid fantasy? You can still do hybrid stuff, such as healing, CCing and buffing.

You can’t expect to be able to do that and not have your damage output suffer as well.

It’s a needed change.

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Yeah I agree , and those mechanics and drawbacks are already in place.
They just added this TEMU Powershift, to make part of the community happy, but it turns out, it s a Tiger s fury, that cost mana, for less energy.

It s not like you can use it in any other form to go back to cat.

You now go to bear form for a charge or bash, MANA USED
Go back to Cat to do damage, MANA USED
Use mana to get a little bit of energy, MANA USED.

Like what are we doing here???

I know how to read, that s enough?? Doesn’t take a genius, if anyone spent half an hour playing feral at any point in classic, they can see that it s bad.

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its an 8 second cd when talented. with pally seal and mana totem in a melee group you recoup that mana really fast. its fine.

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Honestly, yes , I agree , no problem with doing something new and different.

Unless that something new and different is much worse than what we had before.

I am far to be a defender of powershifting , but I don’t hate it either.
I am sure are a detractor of this shifting power.

It is VERY BAD.

They also said that Feral will not get any conversion of spell power, with the base spell healing reduce, you know need to use MORE of your mana for the same healing.

I mean it is just such a bad change!

It s the alchool free beer of powershifting.

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I need a megaphone to yell this at you all.

You have a direct line from Spirit to Damage now. Spirit gear is going to make you go CRAZY for doing damage and also for healing. You’ll literally be able to do everything at once because you’ll have the kind of spirit that lets you regenerate mana forever.

Get out of this “It’s not what I’m used to so it’s bad” mindset or Druid will be bad forever. Druid before sucked. Nothing about it should stay. Everything you think was a cornerstone was everything keeping the class in the mud. This is a true hybridisation talent the likes of which the class has never seen before, do not ruin this for us.

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Playing druid like it’s meant to be played, that’s what we’re doing

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If we do end up getting some intelect and spirit pieces on our gear, at least it is a win.

It is a horrendous change. Even more so in PvP. How anyone could want this over tigers fury is bananas.

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I have a serious question. What if in the patch notes they said this:

“we changed tigers fury to now cost 55% of base mana and instead of giving you 60 energy it will now only give you 40. Also removed the 15% damage increase”

How would that make you feel?

Also before you all say it’s 8 second cool down. How many talents will that cost to get there? And also how many times you think you’ll be able to use it before oom?

And now you can’t use your mana to be a hybrid.

Those that advocated for this change :index_pointing_at_the_viewer::clown_face:

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I’m excited to play Feral now, they gave us a way to overcome Ferals abysmal energy problems.

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No. Ferals are already very strong in PvP, with insane mobility, healing and ways to deal with a myriad of CC that no other class in the game gets (Disarm, Polymorph, Slows, Roots and now Fear thanks to the capstone talent).

You also have strong CC with Nature’s Grasp, Bash and Feral Charce.

ON TOP of being able to heal?

You absolutely do not need Tiger’s Fury to get a 15% damage boost + 60 energy on demand every 30 seconds.

You actually need to spend your mana to get energy on demand now, giving you a choice:

Do I want to have more energy to deal more damage?

Do I want to use my mana to heal instead?

Do I want to use my mana for utility, mobility and CC break instead?

Rather than being able to use Tiger’s Fury for more damage+energy on demand, and still have mana to do the rest of the hybrid stuff.

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