Comparatively to other classes, it’s not looking good.
Some QOL has been introduced, but Warrior lags significantly behind in its design compared to a majority of the classes right now (Hunter, Mage, Paladin, Warlock, and even Druid).
It’s running on a lot of old talents, that don’t keep up with certain classes such as Mages who are basically running TBC+ specs.
Warrior Shield/Defense spec doesn’t currently scale with itemization.
I’ll say that again, Warrior tank spec does not scale its threat and damage output with gear if we’re going by the current reported numbers.
That means it falls off immediately after the first raid slot as DPS classes start to ramp up their output dramatically.
We’re going to see the return of Fury tanks (which albeit was interesting, what is the point of defensive spec then?)
Additionally, would it be so bad to throw def spec gladiator stance for pvp? Add some variety my dudes.
I mean yeah the leveling you are gonna do okay. It’s the end game that is going to suffer significantly again.
I mean I could be wrong, but have a gander at all the abilities in def and check their scaling. It’s all base damage stuff with no actual modifiers from your gear.
I don’t see why you wouldn’t go Fury tank. Enrage fires off ALL hits now and will almost always be up, and Death Wish is only 5% increased damage taken rather than armor and resistance loss. Then there’s Flurry and Bloodthirst. Plus you would still take the shield talents low in the tree (which do scale with defensive stats), plus threat and last stand. 4/31/16.
I’m not saying I want to go fury tank, but the fact blizzard put mechanics in to prevent it tells me they’re going in a direction I don’t like.. they claim they want you to experiment with different builds but then create mechanics that prevent just that..
Meh its moot anyways, I have already requested and received a refund, and I don’t intend on play WOW4E, doesn’t seem I am blizzard intended audience and I have accept that.
it’s too early to tell. And it also depends on how they tune the raid. If it’s easy enough, you can do whatever, like in 2019 classic. The reason it was popular was because of the 1.12 build and WB. The heals were much stronger than damage intake.
if it’s difficult then we may not be able to go fury prot.
I’m not saying you’ll be dual wielding against raid bosses. You’ll still be using a shield. Your threat output simply scales better with Fury talents. You can bloodthirst while using a shield. The only thing that would convince me to go Prot instead is if the gear has a metric ton of block value. That would scale Prot, and to be fair, the Bastion talent scales as well as enragee (but you’d still miss death wish and flurry for threat).
yes warriors got nerfed sadly just like blizz 100% intended to do in SOD.
they even nerfed ORC.. BLIZZ DOES THIS to they can force players to pick ally and “balance” the fractions..lol.
orc hardness was also nerfed
or racial blood fury was nerfed from 25% ap to 10%..
im sure warriors will get a way to remove pally bubbles yeah…?
i just read that weapons and their damage were also nerfed on things like HWL 2 handers.. guess why? to nerf warriors. they also added casters spell power or whatever to weapons so casters can do more damage.. lol
can anyone point to me in any classic were arms was wanted for raiding?nope.. why does blizz not “fix” that issue for arms like they buffed ret pallys.
no reason to bring arms or fury as other classes can and will be better and do more damage, just like in sod.
nothing was done for arms or warrior class in general.. blizz just tried to make nerfs look like buffs. no + hit talents for arms no self healing no ranged attack no pve damage buffs like pallys got.
the real problem is how fast everyones leveling up but warrior. it seems like warrior is closer to what they told us the leveling experience would be like. They’ll be tuning the other classes down and the mana/energy slowed a bit and things will get better.
I just don’t agree. I don’t think the evidence points to that at all.
Warrior was already one of the best classes, if not THE best class in classic. And they have got buffs… did they get as large of buffs as other classes? No… but they still got buffs, buffs they didn’t even need.
Warriors even got a new unprecedented pvp utility special to them in classic wow.. Spearing Strike. They can knock people off their mounts.
Orcs can now decurse… which is really good b/c it looks like warlock are going to be really good.
they literally promised it would be slow like classic’ leveling was/is. theyll be tuning everything else down. especially since theres already a complaint that leveling is too fast on the forums. i guess well see tho.
I don’t think they have played classic warrior in the past. they don’t realize or remember that warrior doesnt come online and become one of, if not the best class until later in the game.