Add Arena to WoW Forever

WoW: Forever World of Warcraft: Forever General Discussion
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The existence of rated pvp brackets like 2v2, 3v3, 5v5 would bridge a gap for a large portion of the playerbase looking to play WoW forever.

All the classic andies who prefer wPvP and BGs would be unaffected. The playerbases do not overlap. World PVP population would remain stable, Bg population would remain stable while the playerbase who has kept WoW arena alive since 2007 (19 years) would play arena.

WoW: Forever is not a no changes game. The addition of arenas does not negatively affect the rest of the pvp playerbase in any way. You can just opt to not play them. I don’t think this should be controversial.

Arena got an 85% approval rating in the community poll: wowclassic.plus/content/systems?p=156

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The compromise some players seem open to is keeping all PvP gearing in BGs and world PvP, with arena offering only cosmetic rewards like titles or tabards. Personally, I don’t think it even needs rewards. A ladder with MMR is enough.

I’m also not asking for the game to be balanced around arena. Adding it shouldn’t mean changing classes, diminishing returns, or CC durations to accommodate it.

Xaryu raised concerns about DRs and long CC durations, and I understand his point. But I’d be happy to play with those limitations. Twenty-second Polymorph? We know what we’re signing up for. It’s Classic, and I’m not expecting a perfectly balanced competitive mode.

Keep the gearing incentives in BGs and world PvP, and let arena be an optional mode for people who enjoy it. I’m willing to compromise on balance, gearing, and even cosmetic rewards. I just want a place to queue arena with friends and climb a ladder.

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My concern with Arena is the addition of yet another mode they would need to balance classes around

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Doesn’t need to be balanced. TBC arena isn’t balanced and it has a cult following. We just want a gamemode to play. I think it should be understood that Arena will never be balanced in a Classic style game and that the playerbase should just accept that. Should be seen as a for fun gamemode if you want to partake.

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No, arena defeats the entire purpose of brining things back to open world.

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Not only this, but, at least give it some breathing for the game to establish itself and for people to learn how to play their new class changes.

Why would you want that now? You don’t even know how to play, yet.

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I’ve been working on a rated 1v1 skirmish/rated duel addon with weighted matchups, diminishing rating changes on repeated matches, leaderboards, and a ton of other features.

I was hoping they would have some kind of arena, or at least a dueling area, but if not, I’ll build it myself.

Its called Arena Ranked Duels on CurseForge

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Nah I’m all about players having the fun they want. Arenas may take a few players out of the world. My gripe with it is for them to not make it mandatory to gear up. I hate arenas, and don’t like that TBC required it to compete in world PvP or BGs with high geared players. For PvP in forever, I want gear to be almost irrelevant, balance the classes appropriately and to their best, and make it just a place where skill shines, gear doesn’t impact play, and your skill brings the rewards, whatever those rewards may be. When you engaged in PvP in w3, you couldn’t bring stuff you farmed for months into the arena, you learned how to play against your opponents like in a chess game that’s what I want…won’t happen though haha. I say bring in arena for those who like it. 1v1 arena might be something I’d jump into, I do like dueling

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I disagree with your assertion that it doesn’t harm the rest of the game.

-They have to balance around arena

-People will be sitting in capital cities spamming arena rather than out in the world

-Arenas should not be the method of PVP gear advancement

If anything, they should tie the new PVP reward system to world encounters rather than BG spam. If you want arena go play retail or TBC.

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Why do people think the Arena playerbase is this extremely large population of players? Weird

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So this isn’t really true and is a bad argument. Classic PvE was NOT balanced, TBC and Wrath arena was NOT balanced.

The real problem here is Blizzard would balance them and thats a terrible idea. You just put 1v1 or RBG in and if your class sucks then so be it.

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If they just add PvP world events like the STV Blood Moon event from SoD i would be happy with that tbh

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That’s not true, not every class excelled against every other class, but every class or spec (almost) had a place in arenas. Maybe except holy priest or the tank specs I think in TBC

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PvP balance has had seperate modifiers for years. If we are even going to pretend the pvp would be balanced.

Oh no! People will be playing the game instead of playing the game?? Imagine I complained about people being in dungeons or raids instead of being “out in the world”. Lol

Arena is a core feature to a pillar of this game, and I think it belongs in forever.

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With the updated talents, I can assure you at least one spec of every class is okay now.

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One assumption is that Arena players will detract from the world’s overall liveliness by staying in capital cities. You guys do realize we will be on one GIGA MEGA server with 1150 shards or layers? The world is already going to feel populated or not, depending on your shard/layer.

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Make gear progression be from wPVP / BGs. Make Arena cosmetic rewards idc. Don’t balance around arena because this is classic and nobody expects it to be balanced.

They said they’re open to adding a new class if the community wants it. That is a much larger change than adding arena as a gamemode ever would be.

Build all the incentives and gearing into World PvP and BGs and make Arena cosmetic / title only.

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It’s been stated again and again that the world is the main character and focus of Forever. Dont be disingenuous when you know full well what Felatari meant

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Yeah, from what I see, as a hunter main, secondary shadowpriest in TBC, a lot of the pain points that were resolved with TBC, some of them were fixed in different ways for Forever. Although some of them found their way back and are a pain point again. I forsee MM still being required in PvP. Which I guess isn’t too bad…as all the specs in hunter aren’t dramatically different in how they play. A survival hunter in forever will still be using kiting and and a MM hunter might still be using a pet without lone wolf. Very good changes overall. Just wish pet scaling and deadzone would get fixed!

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I’d be open to helping with development of this addon. Make a github or something and I’ll contribute. Or if you don’t make it maybe I will make something similar.

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Disingenuous? Okay then remove all instanced content. The world is the main character you are so right.

What a weird hill to die on. People queing for arena takes nothing from anyone.

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