New Raids Open at 3:00 p.m. PDT on August 27

First and foremost, we’d like to thank everyone who participated in raid testing on the PTR. Thanks to your testing, we were able to identify and fix several issues, including the first wave of attackers for the Horde base sometimes de-spawning, the wave counter UI at the top of the screen disappearing, and some boss abilities incorrectly targeting the tank.

We’re also adding extra tier token drops to bosses, just like we did previously. That increase was not on the PTR, but will be in place when the new raids open on Thursday, August 27 at 3:00 p.m. PDT (6:00 p.m. EDT).

One question we saw a bit was asking for clarity on our previously-posted statement “We will plan to make other Phase 3 loot changes to heroic dungeon bosses in Phase 3.” As some players correctly concluded, that was intended to call out the Phase 3 changes that players are already familiar with, such as the Epic Gems. We do not have any surprise additional loot changes in the works.

As a reminder, Arena Season 3 starts with the weekly reset next week – that’s the morning of September 1 in this region.

We’ll see you there!

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Thanks for the update. The extra tokens/loot is the biggest thing we were missing.

Dreams of dst on the badge vendor or dropping from heroic dungeon bosses crushed :cry:.

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Are SSC and TK attunements being removed?

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Would have been pretty cool to have more of a reason to hit Heroic dungeons besides the gems, it’s a let down to not see something similar to titan protocalls.

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I was able to get into SSC and TK without being attuned this weekend. You still need attunement to turn off the waterfall in SSC.

Tell me you don’t give a sh*t about TBC without telling me you don’t give a sh*t about TBC.

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I tired to zone into TK yesterday on a second account that wasn’t attuned. Could not enter. “You do not meet the requirements”

Sooo about those SSC/TK skips to Vashj and KT…?

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We’re not actually expected to believe that the “loot changes” just meant epic gems, right?

“we’re making big loot changes in phase 2! More tier tokens off tier 4 bosses, more tier tokens off tier 5 bosses, and more loot off non tier 5 bosses!

Oh and I guess epic gems from heroics, so tanks have something new to HR once BT drops”

What likely happened was they never finished their plans/forgot they made that comment, and threw this out there last minute as a CYA. Embarrassing

EDIT: Oh my mistake… I thought they would be putting raw epic gems onto the heroic bosses…. How foolish to even assume that.

No, they’re putting the garbage pre-cut epic gems on every boss… the ones that are no longer relevant because of the introduction of actual epic gems in phase 3.

and they expect us to actually believe their obvious lie that this was their big “additional loot changes for phase 3” lol. SURE BUD

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Their AI transcription of the notes wasn’t detailed enough. Also, it should also include last boss is a guaranteed epic now going off the original 2.1 TBC patch notes.

they forgot about those just like they forgot that they promised additional loot changes in heroics until last week

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they didn’t forget, they fed the notes from 2.1 heroic changes and that included guaranteed epic off last boss and gem changes to the AI and it burped out that…

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Also wondering about this.

Please add.

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predictable but still feels bad for the people who thought that message meant otherwise

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any word on the KT/Vashj skip? SSC/TK attunement removal? Extra piece of non-tier loot on non-tier bosses? Are badges from raids staying on ZA patch or coming sooner since that patch should be a few weeks away anyway?

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Lots of questions need answering. And the only answer that matters is that they don’t care about TBC.

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What an absolute joke. Why even mention it then? You mentioned it as if it was a new change for TBC Anniversary.

This is just like if you were to say “Starting in Phase 3 Black Temple will be available to raid”

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That’s obvious…it’s because it’s a lie, they did “plan” on it. Now they are just recanting because they don’t care/didn’t get to it. Such an obvious statement that was DEFINITELY not intended to be about “gems.” That’s also why we’re getting communication 3 days before release, they forgot and have spent the last week or so scrambling to see if they had time, which they did not. Also…why the removal of the original post??? Screams sus.

Edit * Lastly…why they hell do we need CLARITY on a change we were “already familiar with,” lmao what a joke.

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I wish we had the enthusiasm from this dev team we had in Wrath Classic last time, say what you will about the changes they made but at least they obviously cared.

Remember Dragon Soul relaunch and the green fog for 6 resets? Throne of Thunder.

For Anniversary remember the mess that was the Scarab Lord chain in P4?

I seriously would prefer they just don’t release this content if they don’t have the drive as an organization it’s an insult to our time investment. The attitude has completely killed my personal enthusiasm for Classic Plus in any capacity, say they have a good launch. It’s likely they normally knock launches out of the park. What about the patches after? Will we get the same hands off minimal work we’ve seen them throw at us over the past 3+ years?

I’d say probably.