Yes, that is as well. If someone were to make a thread calling out a person to accuse them of being a botter, cheat, etc. That would get a suspension for harassment.
It is a bit different when the person is a public figure and goes on a stream with huge viewer amounts or becomes a huge streamer. Sometimes they allow a thread about them if it is not blatant promotion/advertising, or trashing the person specifically. Positive threads are sometimes allowed. General linking to videos like T&E ,etc to discuss the content is also allowed. This thread started as a “discuss the popular news topic on a big stream”. Given the subject it devolved into the expected discussions about a person who was on that stream.
This thread has been up longer than I expected though, regardless. I suspect the mods will remove it eventually.
Ah yes, community council green text being condescending towards the community.
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Didn’t they teach you how to be a good 'lil bootlicker and not respond to the trolls?
How would you have liked my reply, if a streamer does exactly what I described? And no, I am not a representative of Blizzard in any way, I’m nor were we given any directive other than providing feedback based on the area of the game we represent and following the forum ToS.
I don’t think we coming in to dispel some rumors that are vastly negative and untrue is somehow slander now. There’s even an individual who was being mislead and found the awful premise of this thread.
It’s not against ToS to essentially slander people then?
Slander implies a false statement, I didn’t name any individual and the statement I did make was based on a public stream that was discussed by the OP.
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The forum ToS is astoundingly loose. I expect your green text will disappear like a fart in the wind pretty soon if you don’t tap out of this one.
I assume you replied to me. No, I am well within the rules. Explaining how the Code of Conduct works and what mods action is not controversial.
If you are not talking to me, then ignore what I just said.
I’d say I was clearly talking about the other CC member but I guess I forgot to reply to them. Honestly though you should probably tap out too. Doesn’t matter if you are right if a CC member is scrapping with the people they supposedly represent in every second thread. At a point in time when everyone thinks the CC is a joke, it doesn’t help.
GD is an interesting place. One portion wants people with attitude who stand up to Devs, who criticize, fight back, etc. Some want really outrageous feedback even.
Greens are not required to give up their personality and become doormats. What they can’t do is break the code of conduct. We can, and do, disagree with each other, with players, and with Blizzard.
I know people think greens are supposed to be overall yes men, but usually they are not. They are individuals who are allowed to still be individuals.
If someone is being aggressive and trying to bait or troll me it is best if I ignore them, but pushing back within the rules, is not going to get someone in trouble.
Maybe it is best not to have people who get walked all over.
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The only thing you should be doing is asking us questions, ignoring the trolls and presenting feedback to the council. That is your role. You are not some expert in your field duking it out with the developers.
I understand you think that. However, you don’t define what my role is, or that of anyone else.
Anyone on the CC is free to chat on any Blizzard forum. They are still regular players and did not lose that ability.
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Holdup let me get my notepad 1 sec
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Absolutely then drop the green text when you just want to goof off on the forums.
I’ve only seen the screenshots he cleared up that were taken out of context bRuH. But go ahead with cancel culture.
We can’t do that at all. It is not an option and I am not allowed to change posting chars. I have had to use this one since 2013.
If others want to post on alts maybe they can? I feel that is a bit less than honest.
You will also see MVPs post green just chatting and stuff. Green is any program at all. We can’t turn it off without changing chars and MVPs are not allowed to do that.
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Well then maybe consider the optics of fighting with people right now when the CC is a sore subject. Also you don’t have to say something against the ToS if Blizzard decides that you are reflecting negatively on their PR stunt.
Blizzard is surprisingly open to criticism as long as it is constructive, even if you are green. I did not get de-greened for very public and vocal criticism of the 2018 Blizzcon Diablo Immortal announcement that got thousands of likes on the D3 forums. Nothing in my agreements says I have to be blindly approving. I just have to be constructive and respectful in the feedback I give.
Look I’m trying to help you. If you don’t see that giving the forums any further reason to be upset with the CC right now is probably not the best idea then good luck to you. You are not the worst offender in this thread but your wannabe CM act get’s old too especially when a criticism of the CC is that they are just yes men, fair or not.
You basically told me that we should be “yes men” or secretaries to the forums and player base. That we should have all our personalyt and posting opinions stripped from us. That we should put up with whatever people say without push back. “yep taking notes”.
No. You want people who push back against Blizzard ideas then you want people who can push back against trolling, abuse, and can hang out and disccuss a topic.
Requiring CC to not disagree and just to record and pass on is, unrealistic and dehumanizing.
It is not helpful.
What is helpful is for CC to review the code of conduct, ask questions if they are not sure about parts of it, and to remember not to get baited and angry.
What they are not required to do is surrender their opinions and right to speak to the player base OR the Devs.
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Except that is the role it has to play. Anything less and the CC is a total failure. We didn’t get to vote for you. We didn’t get to elect people we thought would represent us fairly and strive for what we hope wow will become. You aren’t senators/ city council members / union officials. If the COMMUNITY council doesn’t represent the community what is the point? You were hand picked by Blizzard. It’s a farce. You do have the power to make it somewhat worthwhile but I haven’t seen even one of you that looks like they understand what that will take.
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yeah,not really up to date on all this council stuff.
That is your opinion and I just have to say I 100% disagree.
I am not here to be elected, voted for, or anything else.
I don’t think you are going to see CC members courting likes (I hope) and pandering to the forums as a whole. They don’t depend on your approval to provide decent feedback from the communities that they are part of.
I also think you really need to review my post history. For things I can have an impact on I am perfectly happy to work with the players. There are examples today even regarding accessibility.
I also want to address the power thing. What power? We can hope Blizzard replies and listens. Beyond that we have no power. Just like the secret forums with the major streamers, theorycrafters, etc had little impact.
I get exactly why everyone is skeptical of Blizzard. I am too. Trying to tell people to abandon their right to post as player, chat, engage, etc. …not ok.
People wonder why Blues only show up to post announcements and don’t chat at all. How DARE they comment on a thread about favorite ice cream and just engage the community in a comfy way. Not allowed.
This kind of thing only drives a deeper divide between the Blues, or greens, and the players. Stop forcing people into roles you THINK they should have and let them be people you engage and interact with as regular humans.
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