2 manning heroics in blues? not good for the game

Lol no. Wrath heroics were always meant to be easy. Hence why we say LFD is needed because the dungeon is shorter than the search to build a group. We’re not gonna increase the difficulty just to justify your clown anti LFD stance.

Too bad. Heroics will last 10 min tops and can be 2 manned. Enjoy spending 3 hours looking for a group for a 10 minute blitz fest. You’re not getting a buff to introductory content just to justify your clown stance on LFD.

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So citing two exceptionally high players, while wearing multiple epic pieces, with builds specifically geared to do this is your reasoning?

:rofl:

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It was a bug and looks like it might have been fixed.

Can you pop on to do a quick test Manuredps? I only have 70’s and 80’s

Wrath heroics always were soloable in Ulduar gear.

Don’t play Wrath if you’re not interested in Wrath

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I can test it when I get home I’m at work right now

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What’s LQH? But yeah, I had to pull it out of the closet and dust it off. RIP Cata heroics… gone and forgotten…

Does no one else remember the TBC raids being done by the early guilds where half of them were not 70 and wearing quest greens?

Top tier always makes things easy and with gear and experience they are all easy. Some people equate tedious with hard. It’s not the same thing. Everything in WoW is easy. It’s one of the reasons it got so popular. All the other MMOs were much more punishing for failure.

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Ya I play WoW classic because it’s a nice chill game to relax compared to the other that I play. lol even the hunting games that I play like the new one that came out Way of the Hunter, I consider to be more difficult then classic.

Easy game doesn’t mean bad game. I actually think wow classic can show a lot of creativity in how you play mattering on how you play and it’s another reason why I like it.

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Exactly, I have enough stress in my real life, I like my game to be enjoyable.

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Why is this a problem? I’m biased as having 1 Druid tank and 1 Priest healer but regardless of it, I don’t see the problem.

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Question is, why even do the pre BIS grind when Naxx is so easy and full of loot. I’m looking at just leveling my alts during the 10 day period and do hodir rep grind.

Wrath raiding is a complete joke until Ulduar hard modes.

With how easy wotlk heroics are, i would say 4 dps and a healer might end up as the meta for them.

Tank and healer shortages. Most of the people that want RDF want it to find tanks and healers for them. Can fill a group with 3 dps in one spam, tanks and healers are what takes forever. This makes tanks and healers even less likely to care to deal with random players. Most good tanks and heals have at least 1 dps friend they can bring along to speed things up.

Good luck everybody else.

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Can we please, please, please stop snitching on people doing things that aren’t exactly what the content is designed for? Making this the most on-rails theme park because people are doing inconsequential things in trivial content is one of the ugliest things that has come from Classic

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It really is how we ended up with Retail: so restrictive players don’t have the ability to do anything unique or exceptional. Can’t be creative at all.

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Is it bad that a tank/healer can duo a heroic? It depends…

Is content so easy that DPS isn’t required and people can just duo it if they want to without having to bother finding a group? If so, yea maybe heroics could stand to be buffed a bit because it’s probably not going to be terribly fun for the average case.

Is content challenging at gear, but a tank/healer can elect to do the content duo at a significant cost to time? I don’t really see a problem… people have always had that option in WoW.

From the video and the posts, it suggests that if a tank/healer can do this in normal dungeon gear, maaaaaaaaybe heroics could stand to be buffed a bit. It’s also worth noting though that bis lists can completely break the intended gameplay. Even in Vanilla Classic, the blue pre-bis sets made MC trivial because it was the best possible gear and everybody knew exactly what they needed to get. Not to mention it was end-patch gear being used for early game content.

It’s important to ask the question of what WotLK heroics will be like in gear that people not chasing a pre-bis list will have?

(I have no idea, just posing questions that I think are important to ask before we freak the heck out and declare WotLK broken :D)

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its not at launch the tank is full nax geared, ontop of that hes the arms prot spec where you just spam revenge/sweeping strikes - also he turned a 8minute heroic into a 30min heroic, With a full group you can clear 3 heroics in that same time frame.

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That’s not the fault of the healet nor the tank. Personally I rarely pug anymore and just stick with the guild. DPS pugs flame me and call me bad because I can’t hold aggro within 1 second of pulling as they blast every cool down and die.

They can’t blame us for not wanting to deal with that

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2 manning heroics in blues?

The very first second shows tank in BIS phase 1. lol
Took them 30m to run a dungeon that’s usually takes 10 minutes.

wow

jealous much?
Like, what’s your problem OP? Why are some people so hell bent to brick the game even further? Do you guys need a hug? A friend?

This is how it was. And it has to stay this way.

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Pretttty much this honestly. 2maning in blues? Dude opens his character screen on the first frame and you can see all his t7 and raid gear. lol… The OP also complained saying that people were doing heroics at 77 in all blues and cited a streamer and his sunwell clearing guild, in full sunwell gear saying that there is no way they should be able to do it while failing to realize how good that gear really is. Just baffles me honestly.

Edit - Corrected the timing from 30 seconds to first frame.

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