The classic playstyle does not exist in retail. So it doesnt matter if it didn’t feel bad.
I am aware than many people find the I-win button of 2 hand enhance fun. Doesn’t mean that should be incorporated into retail. The entire reason it was “fun” wont exist anymore.
So you want to destroy what others like to put this in? Sheesh. Not even a compromise.
To be fair, its the only way 2H could even be implemented. The calls for both would be horrible.
Lol man said leftist. K bud. Way to invalidate yourself already
2hd enhance is a gimmick. Slow, rng feat of a spec.
Funny thing is, it was only around for vanilla. Removed entirely after because of how utterly bad 2hd enhance is as a spec. Keep it dead.
LOL
Didn’t even realize they said that.
Example #300000 of a brainrotten gamergate-fossilized forum user trying to relive the ‘glory days’ of something that barely ever existed.
Yes, but Id rather shaman get a tank or support spec.
They see what Blizzard has done to frost dks with the return of 2h from being just a dw spec during legion and afterword. And I can honestly see it this spec has enough issues. Do not need blizzard to fumble with adding 2h to Enhancement like they did with frost.
That being said, I like you played 2h enhancement back in og vanilla when the game was first released. Although my 2h enhancement started about 6-8 months before TBC was released. And yes the game has come a long way. I would love to see what an updated 2h Enhancement would look like. And although I prefer DW now if blizzard returned 2h correctly I might be one of those that would prefer 2h weapons.
Actually no its not. Warriors had it before Shamans, Rogues could dw maces before we even had dw.
Ok so this arguement Is as dated as the game is. Of course classic playstyle is not in retail. Doesn’t mean that they can’t update it. Doesn’t mean that if they returned it we would be auto attacking like in classic. No they can update it. In example instead of having LL we could have primal strike or changed primal strike to Molten Strike and have it do fire damage like LL but use MH weapon. They can and probably would update it for the modern game. I do agree with you on most but at this point this specific argument about classic playstyle needs to stop and a new valid reason needs to be given.
There are other ways it could be done
Enhancement have a talents that need off-hand like Lava Lash talents, Maelstorm Weapon talents, Crash Lightning (allows Lava Lash to cleave), Elemental Weapons, Elemental Assault (more Maelstorm Weapons from Lava Lash) and Maelstorm Weapon generation (off-hand is faster). You basically need to rework the half of the talents in the tree.
The gameplay in DF Enhancement Shaman and talent tree are the best version ever it has. Why would you ruin it to give 2H? I would vote 100% no.
What I meant is that they’re the only class synonymous with dual-wielding 1h axes/maces.
It’s part of the identity of Enh Shaman now.
I’d rather them make a new Shaman spec which centered around it than tack it onto Enh.
Enh atm is entirely built around the idea of dual-wield, it would take considerable upheaval to change that, and I quite like how it is now.
As I said earlier in the thread, I think it’d be interesting to see something like a 2h Shaman tank, or maybe even support spec.
Tbh though, in a perfect world Shaman would have the incredibly amount of weapon variety they had in vanilla (able to equip almost anything as a weapon).
Yes.
Why not? Frost dk has two handers and dual wielding as viable options.
Having more options are always better.
lol alright, yeah no, get lost. If I wanted to play a spec where Blizzard one day decides to throw the entire design as it’s existed for over a decade out the window to replace it with something wholly unrecognizable, I wouldn’t have quit Legion.
This “poll” was already a joke simply by being entirely self-selected responses from a self-selecting sample pool, but the question wasn’t even clear enough that half the “yes” responses think they’re agreeing to something other than what the OP actually meant.
Dude thanks for the insult to get lost. Being insulted is something that shows me your character and what you stand for. So thank you for that.
Initially, I just wanted this to be a straight up or down vote of yes you want this, or no you didn’t want this. However, due to policies out of my control, I had to change it to a discussion thing.
The problem is for how long have posts like Shamans needed to have 2h weapons popped up over the years? Too many to freakin count. Everyone has an idea of how Blizzard could implement it. Yet no consensus from the community has ever been truly established. Why? Because no post just asked for us to vote as a community for something so the developers know what it is we freakin want. So far from what I have seen it has been all NO at least the No has been more vocal regarding this. If that is the case then all future posts wanting this should all be ignored. We should also send a clear post saying No we do not want this even as a transmog option.
See I agree with this just like I would love to see DW go to paladin. Make another spec of ret but dw.
Yet we got hosed when it came to weapons because Thunderfury. A Weapon wielded by a Elemental and we can’t use it how messed up is that. It should have been our Legendary weapon.
Lol it’s not viable. The specs are hollow because the skills aren’t usable for both weapon types. You basically take a knife and cut the fronts tree in 2. One side can use left, the other right. It’s utter trash and they can’t balance the spec because of 2hd coming back.
Best thing is to never implement 2hd.
It hasn’t been around since vanilla. If you want to play it, go to classic
yeah i dont get why others dont want people to have options.
The person I was responding to was specifically talking about how the 2h enh in classic felt good to play. I responded by saying that the playstyle being referenced does not and will not exist in retail. So it doesnt matter if it felt good in classic.
Your response literally agrees with me. You say my argument is dated, but you go on to agree with me. That the playstyle would not be what it was in classic. It would have to be updated and changed.
I find it weird to call my argument dated, but agree with me?
Not adequately. And besides the fact. OP is literally calling for the removal of DW.
You tried insulting me from the early stages.
Because we see those options havent worked for frost DK yet.
Yes it does but that is almost the start of every argument on 2h vs dw that we aren’t auto attack machines anymore and that playstyle is dead.
As I stated that argument just needs to stop.
Yea no I would rather have dw than 2h if thats our only option. But that being said 2h Enhancement could be added but it has to be done right not like frost. I would say this is a mute talking point as Ion said 2h will not return to Shamans. But that was said about Frost DK and there was the whole nerfing of Demonology warlock and Ion said it was because they didn’t want you to play it in legion.
So who knows 2h could return. if it does I just want it done right and not the dumpster fire that frost turned into when 2h was added.
I didnt make the argument. The person stated that they enjoyed the Classic 2H playstyle. All I said is that the specific playstyle of Classic is not relevant to retail. Since even if by some crazy turn of events it does return, the playstyle will be nothing similar to what it was in classic.
I am not making any argument about 2H vs DW. So I guess the argument stopped. Because I never made it.