1725 vs 7150 residuum - more Slot machines

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Are you even reading what you write? What kind of logic is that?

You’re complaining about RNG, but you’re also complaining that RNG doesn’t exist in the M+ system for this topic, because it gives you a set currency to potentially buy a specific best in slot piece with?

But that’s not good enough, because you can buy cheaper RNG pieces?

What would make you happy in this situation? The removal of the RNG pieces because you don’t have the discipline to save a currency that’s burning a hole in your pocket? Adding RNG pieces to the box so you can literally go back to gambling for them every week?

Everything else in this game drops Azerite and even if you don’t think this system is “bad luck protection” enough, you literally have the option to purchase rando azerite pieces for a specific slot, or a best in slot piece for a specific slot.

The game has never been this generous this early into a tier.

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The only way to win is not to play.

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Calling something that’s putting currency into a vendor for a random item ‘gambling’ isn’t complaining about RNG. That’s calling it what it is. I corrected improper use of the term ‘bad luck protection’, chill out.

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Highlighted the issue with your post

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You have the option for a random item. But you also have the option for a specific best in slot item. I just don’t understand the outrage over this.

I can’t ever remember being able to buy a best in slot high end piece of gear before. Maybe the closest thing was that PVP hunter axe(?) in BC.

These things can’t titanforge or warforge either. You are actually buying your best item, it’s game over for that slot for the tier, you’re done.

It sounds like a really good deal to me. It’s something tangible to work toward, a goal with an end. It’s like the least offensive thing about BFA.

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It isn’t gambling because you’ll always get something out of it.

If you get a duplicate item you can use it for off-spec, but it’s no different then getting items you don’t need across all aspects of the game.

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I don’t know why you’re replying to me, I haven’t complained once in this thread. And I complain a lot, if you want to point obvious things out to me, do it on a thread that makes sense.

Yeah, that’s not how that works. Do you work for EA, perchance?

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gamble

It’s betting your residuum on an uncertain outcome, the outcome of course, being the traits you roll. It’s a gamble, it’s gambling.

Getting ‘something’ out of it doesn’t change that.

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If I have the option to save up for a few months to buy a big purchase, but 1/3 of the way through I decided to run to the casino and hope for a chance to get that money faster, does that mean every time I have a goal I’m gambling, even if I can just save up and buy it?

:thinking: :thinking:

Because you sure make it sound that way.

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…If you have the option to save up for something, but opt to gamble instead of doing that, the fact you have the option not to gamble doesn’t change the fact you gambled.

What the hell are you on about?

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Point being. There is a non-gambling option with a direct path to the goal.

Just because an option to gamble exists doesn’t mean the entire system is gambling.

In this situtaion, if your goal is just ilvl, you can make a specific ilvl purchase for a specific slot. That’s not a gamble.

If your goal is specific traits for that specific ilvl, you can make a specific traits purchase with that specific ilvl. That’s not a gamble either.

The only time this system is gambling, is if you choose to spend your savings early at the casino, when your goal is that big purchase you could just save up for and buy.

OP said this is a slot machine. It’s the one thing about BFA that isn’t.

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There is no “rolling traits”

You get 1 of the 6 items in that slot. The traits on the items never change ever. If you get shoulders of completely awesomeness it always has the same traits.

Also, it’s pretty much unprecedented to be able to grind currency for a bis item of a targeted slot at the same item level as the hardest raid difficulty.

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Duh. Why are you telling me this? The random element of the vendor was what I was referring to, I thought it was obvious enough that I didn’t have to specify.

Then bother him.

Dude, you know what I meant. Every item you can roll in the random loot pool’s value is determined by the traits on it. Nobody cares where it came from, just ilvl and the traits.

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Buddy, you’re in his thread furthering his argument. If you don’t want to be part of this discussion you can peace out.

Or you can gamble and hope nobody replies to your replies? :wink:

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No, I’m not.

Nah, I don’t like the odds of that. You seem very interested with misreading my statements and getting mad at me, due to your apparent lack of reading comprehension.

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Blizzard doesn’t want vendors, vendors offer a specific piece of gear that you can get and be done with. That means you spend less time in game farming that slot machine. But when the community pushed back they had to “buckle” and add a vendor in, only they added it in on their terms.

Does this sound familiar? Because the exact same s*** happened in WoD when they took out flying. I’ve never seen a company as stubborn and thick headed as Blizz.

Actually that’s not true, Bethesda is right there with them in that s*** storm.

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I would have compared it to Legiondaries, personally. Remember when they promised that we would have the ability to target them?

Distant laughing

Then they only gave us the ability to actually do it when the expansion was basically over.

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At least this time they’re BSing us early in the expansion

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Yeah, I suppose it’s better than just outright lying to us before it’s even out.

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depends on your class really, there is only 1 trait i absolutely don’t want on my gear, the rest is at least decent and something I can work with and I am sure even if I get a piece that isn’t the best for my spec it will still be useful for one of my other specs.

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Won’t dispute that, but it would still suck if your first 415 item had that garbage trait and a crappy 3rd ring if you weigh it against what you COULD have gotten. It would be an upgrade over what we have now, but that’s not as big of a deal for each week heroic is up.