15min deserter buff > 15min twink bracket que


#9

Some people just didn’t get the memo I guess. Lots of old school twinkers had an unwritten rule, don’t GY camp and don’t hold the flag to prolong games. Battlegrounds meant something when you fought against the best of the best back in those days…


#10

Then you haven’t met many twinks. Back when I actively played this toon ( during WotLK/Cata, you can see it hasn’t been updated since then :frowning: ) the community was fantastic and we blacklisted anyone who played like an a-clown. This included graveyard farming, verbal abuse or just having a crap attitude. Did this stop people? Of course not, but it definitely made people think twice before doing things. The problem is the vocal minority make it appear as though twinks are running rampant one shotting everyone and camping the GY every game. Having leveled a toon to 71 and a toon to 90 recently, I think I had either of these things happen like 5-6 times.


(Blammo) #11

Any twink infested game I ever played resulted in a WSG GY camp or they’d force you to the middle and just destroy you there.


#12

I can’t say what the communities are like anymore nor can I comment on your experience. I definitely got pushed to the GY a few times and “one shot” a few times, but out of the ~30 or so games I’ve played recently it’s only happened 5-6 times that I can remember. But those same things happen at 120 ( where they really shouldn’t… ) and will continue to happen with the same frequency while leveling. You’ll just have people like me in fully enchanted gear while leveling instead of twinks.

:woman_shrugging:


#13

Since when did they have to force anyone to the middle? Most people run straight there out the gate, ignoring objectives, ignoring the EFC even if s/he runs right through the middle of them.

If people tried to play the game, doing objectives, the other team would be on D, not grouping up to push them to the GY.

It’s because gray/white gear has no stats. It wasn’t intended to be competitive gear. An easy fix wpuld be to set a minimum ilvl to join a bg.


(Zinj) #14

Of this, I have no doubt


#15

This is a disaster, i never thought of quitting. Never…till now.


#16

That is exactly what is happening now.
10-19s Xpon did not pop after a good 8 hrs of being farmed over and over again.
That queue is the slowest it has ever been in BFA, players refuse to queue.
15 min duration, which ends in a tie (If lucky) sucks. :neutral_face:


#17

This.

I don’t like gy camping and roflstomping nubs gets boring. What I did enjoy was countering the twinks on the opposing team and getting a victory for my faction lvlers.


#18

Same, which is why I used to mainly play healers. I was also going to gear up a flag carrier. I did have a guilty pleasure mage for times when healing started to feel more like a chore though. Even so, I played the objectives.

Now, it’s w/e if I can even get a queue to pop.


#19

I was gearing a healer too. Now I guess she’s just gonna sit for awhile.


#20

Have you noticed the mass migration to 20s?
Fastest Twink queues in World of Warcraft are done from a free to play inactive sub account.
F2P 20s have the option to queue into XPon or XPoff if grouped with correct friends.

Full out “Twinking vs Levelers” and it is supported by subscription inactivity.

Brilliant accounting department, right?


#21

This was so true. Not sure how far back you played but I used to play with a well know flag carrying pally named Natethegrate. We never gy camped. Even a guild I joined after, Onslaught. We finished a game quickly and setting up matches against Horde twink guilds was the best part of pvp.


#22

Firstly I am not one of the people who is joining a BG with xpon and then afking St the end. However, even without another toon to play, I can understand waiting 15min for queue and then having a 30 or even 60 minute debuff, when that’s still faster then NEVER getting a BG, which is the case for most level brackets.

Twinks exist, enough that people decided they were so big of a problem, but not enough where unless we all happen to line up more than Methods raid roster, we won’t get to PvP.

So with the current system, can you understand why people who want to play the game this way (specifically low[ER] level, high end gear PvP) would be willing to XPon and afk or make “throw away” X9s?


#23

Started twinking in 2006 - 19’s Bloodlust Battlegroup, “Tichondrius is not for you” all the way.


(Tianhai) #24

Hmm. Almost ever BG I have ever played since the beginning, people always tunnel vision to the middle, twink or no twink.
And GY camping still happens.
Saw the horde get GY locked 2 nights ago in a BFG by a rogue and a paladin wearing just heirlooms.
They never left to Bg and queued again a few times, and leveled, so not likely twinks.
Twinks get blamed for a whole lot of stuff they aren’t actually doing.


(Blammo) #25

Usually, a twink or two will grab the flag and keep it in the middle with a pocket healer. It happened so many times when I used to level in the BG’s or use my own 29 back in the day, and I’ve seen it lately.

Whether or not it was part of an unwritten code in the past… those days are gone. It’s one thing to lose, it’s another thing when a few guys in god mode are standing in the middle refusing to win.


#26

This is a shame, I was looking at this bracket due to the high activity and availability… but my sub has 3 days left, and I have to strategically build it out quick and then deliberately not resub if I actually want to play with the 20s. I can’t stay subbed and queue with them—if I am XP on I outlevel it, if XP off I’m in a different queue. I’d like to keep my sub active to play some at 120 and play my low bracket characters, and the 8.1.5 change is forcing me to choose between the two—encouraging me to strategically unsub.


#27

They will, when the next content comes out my end game toon will be undergeared and I gotta do it again.


#28

Precisely, for the casual low level Battleground consumer, there are two nice options which are being promoted.
Free to play Vet lvl 20 Twinks vs General Population,
(arguably fastest queues in game)
Legion account 110 (Mythic Raid etc.) We get to relive that awesome full expansion feeling for BIS, and queues work.