Eh, unless you see that I made a comment in a thread, I probably didn’t actually see it. Only on the forums during work, so I tend to stick to threads I was already active in.
Me too. 
The systems aren’t testable on beta ATM, but for what is in, there is a strong indication that there will be a casual pathway for upgrading conquest gear.
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I hope you are right and that is how it will turn out. Seems like an afterthought at this point. I know development takes time and I know this stuff has been worked on for a while, but to not even be able to test how this core system works until mere weeks before launch is disheartening.
It’s so frustrating to me, that had they just left WoD gearing in place, they would have saved a lot of development time and had a far better PVP Gearing experience the last 4 years. And who knows they might have even iterated and improved it. But they have started from scratch 3 times now and nothing is looking as good as it was.
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I’m concerned, and it’s not just pvp. Many of the covenant campaigns are broken where you hit a dead end. Balance between covenant abilities and legendaries is bad.
There will be a character wipe coming out with a new build in the next couple of days. Hopefully, a lot of stuff gets fixed but, right now, this isn’t ready to go live.
I’ve talked about this before. I think it’s pride. When new people take over they don’t want to admit that someone else nailed it and just use what they set up. They have to “fix” things that aren’t broken.
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If that were the case, they wouldn’t backtrack on different experiments.
Yeah because they’ve done a ton of back tracking?
Do you know if PvP conduits are mostly grabbed in PvP? I heard they’re like essences and I really don’t want to be doing high end pve for PvP conduits
Legion was different. They changed it.
BfA was very different. They’re changing it a lot.
Yea, they’ve backtracked every expansion.
Yes however they haven’t introduced yet how upgrading them will work yet
There are only four on the PvP vendor and that includes specializations you might not be playing. The dev post is misleading unless they are planning on expanding those choices. I’m not sure if you will be able to get them as “end of match” rewards in PvP… but, if so, it’s probably going to be tied to your rating.
In all of the time I’ve been playing on the beta I’ve only seen one conduit drop and that came from killing a rare elite in the world. That said, I haven’t been doing dungeons or arena skirmishes (since none of my friends got into the beta).
Conduits might be one thing that “casual only” pvpers get hosed on. I didn’t think about it before, but I’d actually be far more concerned about conduits than gear if you are casual pvp only and don’t want to do any pve.
To elaborate, conduits are more like loot than essences. They are drops and the higher the content you are doing the higher level of conduit you can get. There is a way to upgrade your conduits with a currency from the Maw (stygia) but it looks like it will be time inefficient and a bit of a pita.
They patched them. Then they went on to repeat themselves again and again. That’s not backtracking 
Yeah from my understanding (video from a guy on beta) there are drops from m+, world quests and raids. Higher lvl ones for higher content. If there are only that many PvP ones on the vendor that kinda sucks…
I suspect they could drop as “end of match” rewards in rated arena (based on your rating) but no one knows because only arena skirmishes are enabled.
Does it give you a list as loot from m+/raids of ones that drop from those? I heard they’re loot drops but separate.
There is an upgrade mechanic in the Maw, but it really looks like a bad (painful) way of doing it. Higher M+ rewards higher item level conduits. If they are consistent (big if), then higher pvp rating should somehow give higher item level conduits as well.
That looks more like upgrading conduits that you won’t use very often, because there is literally no where else to get conduits above 155.
They posted that they will be separate from the regular boss loot (so a bonus). But, I don’t think these things are even in the loot tables ATM, because I’ve seen zero discussion about it from people doing mythics.
No. Templates was a completely different direction from WoD. BfA was a completely different direction from Legion. That’s more than patching.
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Ah but it’s still not back tracking and admitting wrong. It’s still prideful “we do what we want regardless of what you ask for”. Even the hilarious version of vendors we got because we asked for vendors.
Now let’s look outside of PvP. Rental systems and endless grinds have been bad since day one. They continue to double down on it expansion after expansion. Even after the terrible launch of bfa.
Yeah sounds like a lot of pride to me.
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… but they did admit they were wrong.
… not really. Saying something wasn’t good enough while continuing to do your own thing isn’t actually admitting you’re wrong. Actions>words every day of the week.
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