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Classic players have to pay the same fee and get a game they dont want.
you speak for everyone now?
Everyone not playing live yes, and its a hell of alot of people. If they wanted to play live they would be. thats the reason they are not playing live...because they dont want it...
Sorry but no you do not speak for everyone that could possibly come back and then know how they will feel in the future, plus there is also the fact you could ,i don't know not play non Classic?
11/03/2018 01:48 AMPosted by
Koushi
New classic-only subs, $15/mo is too steep to expect people to see returnees come back en masse. Sure people can afford it, but they already cut it out of their life, they don't need it
100% solely an opinion and not one shared by everyone.
11/02/2018 03:29 PMPosted by
Joynal
I wouldn't have any problem paying $15 a month for Classic.
I refuse to pay $15 a month for the current retail game and since I have to pay for the current retail game in order to play Classic, I won't be playing Classic.
You pay one subscription fee, $15 a month, to play both. I don't see the problem.
#nochanges means no changes to the subscription fee :)
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So basically you're just mad and being spiteful? I'm saying what I like and don't like about it, not treating it like some sort of culture war political football thing.
I don't think combo subs actually makes money sense. I think it makes sense for a struggling live WoW department looking to justify funding to executives. Separate Classic WoW from live WoW might result in more profits, but not better performance reports for the live WoW team.
And you'd be wrong. Any number that is different than retail's sub is bad for business.
The subscription is what carries the company, not expansions, not even the game itself. You do not have to buy WoW anymore, you just sub and play.
You're trying very hard to justify having a separate sub make sense, when you're not looking at the bottom line. The MAJORITY of players are casuals, who are willing to jump back and forth, and explore different aspects of the game. It is not the hardcore audience who fancies Classic only or retail raiding, or whatever it is.
The way to lure more casual players is to give them more options, not encourage them to overcome a paywall to "pay to unlock."
In no world does a paywall encourage casuals, and the majority of the money.
See, a business doesn't care if these people play Retail or Classic. Only you care which one they're playing.
Blizzard wants to get paid. That's how they please their investors They will not care which version of the game they are actually playing, as long as the money keeps coming in.
You’ve convinced me. All this time I thought I wanted to pay specifically for classic so I could soecifically play classic. It is so clear now due to your wisdom and truth bombs, that what I truly wanted was to be used to fudge numbers so shareholders would think the game was not sinking like the titanic. Thank you ever so much for opening my eyes to my true desires. It took 10 years, but you finally did it.
My priorities were so out of whack.
/s
I wonder if they would have done this had BFA not killed retail subs as it did by being a steaming pile of crap.
11/03/2018 02:00 AMPosted by
Purjery
11/02/2018 03:29 PMPosted by
Joynal
I wouldn't have any problem paying $15 a month for Classic.
I refuse to pay $15 a month for the current retail game and since I have to pay for the current retail game in order to play Classic, I won't be playing Classic.
You pay one subscription fee, $15 a month, to play both. I don't see the problem.
You mean besides there being an additional paywall for bfa? Why that paywall yet no paywall for classic?
Is this real?
I'm not paying $180 a year for ANY game,let alone a almost 15 year old game that doesn't get content updates.
This is a bad move by blizzard,and it will definitely effect the amount of people playing classic.
They should have cut the sub price in half at the least.
If I was planning on playing for 5 years,that is $900.
let that sink into your head for a second...$900 to play a 14+ year old game for 5 years.
You could buy 60 games at $15 each for that amount of money,there is no way classic is worth that much.
You have to be some kind of wow addict if you think this is a fair price.
You're paying $15 for both games... it's not their fault if you don't play one of them, that's like getting NEtflix and saying you pay $10 for Daredevil. it's flawed logic.
Is this real?
I'm not paying $180 a year for ANY game,let alone a almost 15 year old game that doesn't get content updates.
This is a bad move by blizzard,and it will definitely effect the amount of people playing classic.
They should have cut the sub price in half at the least.
If I was planning on playing for 5 years,that is $900.
let that sink into your head for a second...$900 to play a 14+ year old game for 5 years.
You could buy 60 games at $15 each for that amount of money,there is no way classic is worth that much.
You have to be some kind of wow addict if you think this is a fair price.
You're paying $15 for both games... it's not their fault if you don't play one of them, that's like getting NEtflix and saying you pay $10 for Daredevil. it's flawed logic.
A better analogy would be to say that it's like paying the same price for a time-bubble version of Netflix with no new content. How popular would that be? Not very. The reason most fans are eating this up right now is due to the fact that they are already subscribers so it costs them nothing extra. Classic-only fans patiently awaiting that specific game are in another boat entirely.
We effectively get to pay for BFAs constant updates while yielding none of the satisfaction of playing it because it's a force fed bundle down our throats.
Any other fan base except for the die-hard wow community, that led the game astray into it's current iteration, would be up in arms and boycotting such a deal.
This strategy is strictly to fudge sub numbers on a dying BFA.
I enjoy the current mind set behind it, live subscription allows access to classic. Its the most logical thing to do for the new pet battle of wow.
11/03/2018 02:20 AMPosted by
Gattz
We effectively get to pay for BFAs constant updates while yielding none of the satisfaction of playing it because it's a force fed bundle down our throats.
Well no, unless you buy BfA you could not play it, and even a separate does not change that, you don't get to say what they do with your money once they have it.
11/03/2018 02:20 AMPosted by
Gattz
Any other fan base except for the die-hard wow community, that led the game astray into it's current iteration
You mean still successful after 15 years, breaking sales records and crashing online stores due to demand? Which in turn enables them to be around long enough to finally see the good thing that making Classic servers are and not just folding forever and denying us legit ones?
11/03/2018 02:20 AMPosted by
Gattz
This strategy is strictly to fudge sub numbers on a dying BFA.
Except that no matter what they can still easily see who is playing what.
People wanted no changes. The subs were 15 a month in 2006. Enjoy.
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11/02/2018 03:29 PMPosted by
Joynal
I wouldn't have any problem paying $15 a month for Classic.
I refuse to pay $15 a month for the current retail game and since I have to pay for the current retail game in order to play Classic, I won't be playing Classic.
You don't have to buy retail - just subbing gives you up to the last xpac for content. Only thing you can buy is BFA if you want that content i do believe.
So yeah, you are making a fuss over nothing. Congratulations.
Well this sub situation went from "Pleeeeeeaaaaase blizz give us classic we will gladly pay a sub fee" to $15 is waaay too much for no new content.
From what this forum says Vanilla has years of content.
You guys were just expecting it to be free or have a pay wall "to keep trolls out". Have a look at the forum
What do you see right now?
You guys were just expecting it to be free or have a pay wall "to keep trolls out". Have a look at the forum
What do you see right now?
well if we had forum sharding we probably would only see half of the posters...
You guys were just expecting it to be free or have a pay wall "to keep trolls out". Have a look at the forum
What do you see right now?
well if we had forum sharding we probably would only see half of the posters...
LOL.
I'm more concerned with the regen, lfr ui, and the wrong itemization than I am the starting zones being sharded.
I expected the combine sub. That makes sense. It's wow. Its a server option.
It's not a seperate game. Same game. Different ruleset.
#warcraftnation
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well if we had forum sharding we probably would only see half of the posters...
LOL.
I'm more concerned with the regen, lfr ui, and the wrong itemization than I am the starting zones being sharded.
I expected the combine sub. That makes sense. It's wow. Its a server option.
It's not a seperate game. Same game. Different ruleset.
#warcraftnation
If it was the same game then it wouldn't be needed at all and bfa would suffice.
Separate games, separate subs.
#payforwhatyouwantnotwhatyoudont
forced bundles to become the new gaming norm if we keep this up.
Oh you want a copy of Diablo 2 for nostalgia reasons? Sorry, you have to buy diablo 3 because it only comes in that bundle. The list could go on and on.
Retail subscribers love this idea though because it gives them extras at no additional cost.
I think I'll just watch more netflix instead.
11/02/2018 03:28 PMPosted by
Osirus
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K bye.
I bet you have given blizzard at least $2,500 for WoW alone.
Probably more. Your point? I also pay $3000 for business class tickets when I fly.
Not everyone is making $7 an hour that plays this game.
11/03/2018 03:25 AMPosted by
Gattz
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LOL.
I'm more concerned with the regen, lfr ui, and the wrong itemization than I am the starting zones being sharded.
I expected the combine sub. That makes sense. It's wow. Its a server option.
It's not a seperate game. Same game. Different ruleset.
#warcraftnation
If it was the same game then it wouldn't be needed at all and bfa would suffice.
Separate games, separate subs.
#payforwhatyouwantnotwhatyoudont
forced bundles to become the new gaming norm if we keep this up.
you dont get to say what they do with your sub money once they have it, dont have to play the version you dont want to, there will be plenty who have no problems being able to play both, or paying 15 and only play one or the other, face it, there was never a sub option that was going to make everyone happy.
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I bet you have given blizzard at least $2,500 for WoW alone.
Probably more. Your point? I also pay $3000 for business class tickets when I fly.
Not everyone is making $7 an hour that plays this game.
wait where the heck are you flying for 3k?