11/02/2018 03:27 PMPosted by YazfizbashI'm not paying $180 a year for ANY game,let alone a almost 15 year old game that doesn't get content updates.
What? Pirates don't want to pay for the entertainment they consume?
What a shocker.
What? Pirates don't want to pay for the entertainment they consume?
What a shocker.
11/03/2018 03:25 AMPosted by Gattz...
LOL.
I'm more concerned with the regen, lfr ui, and the wrong itemization than I am the starting zones being sharded.
I expected the combine sub. That makes sense. It's wow. Its a server option.
It's not a seperate game. Same game. Different ruleset.
#warcraftnation
If it was the same game then it wouldn't be needed at all and bfa would suffice.
Separate games, separate subs.
#payforwhatyouwantnotwhatyoudont
forced bundles to become the new gaming norm if we keep this up.
Oh you want a copy of Diablo 2 for nostalgia reasons? Sorry, you have to buy diablo 3 because it only comes in that bundle. The list could go on and on.
Retail subscribers love this idea though because it gives them extras at no additional cost.
Same game. Different ruleset. This is a fact. No matter how much you try to deny it.
Server option.
Its the Vanilla ruleset. It's not a different game.
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Some of them quit because it wasn't an expense they wanted to pay on a game they didn't feel was worth the money anymore.
ALong with thousands of other reasons as well, not just the one that supports any pet peeve.
I'm not sure you understand how a market economy works.
11/03/2018 04:00 PMPosted by Koushi...
ALong with thousands of other reasons as well, not just the one that supports any pet peeve.
I'm not sure you understand how a market economy works.
So you are going to tell me that they all quit for the same reasons? Come on now, you just want any sub loss or gain to solely be because of what issue or favorite feature.
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I'm not sure you understand how a market economy works.
So you are going to tell me that they all quit for the same reasons? Come on now, you just want any sub loss or gain to solely be because of what issue or favorite feature.
I have never once said that people have ever quit in the entire history of the universe because of the ratio of classic-only players to combo-players on classic WoW servers.
It's telling that most of your arguments are strawmen, and you think because some vocal people said they'd pay any price, this somehow applies to anyone else.
11/03/2018 06:43 AMPosted by Thermiss
I love the BFA players who pearl clutch abot PS giving vanilla for free when they themselves are about to get classic. For free..
Our subs payed for Classic. People playing private servers and not giving Blizzard any money did not.
11/03/2018 04:06 PMPosted by KoushiI have never once said that people have ever quit in the entire history of the universe because of the ratio of classic-only players to combo-players on classic WoW servers.
Oh yah you did, you said people quit because of one thing, you did not say 'some' people did you? You wanted to misrepresent a sub loss to represent your biased view.
11/03/2018 04:06 PMPosted by KoushiIt's telling that most of your arguments are strawmen, and you think because some vocal people said they'd pay any price, this somehow applies to anyone else.
Lol you are funny, no, even explained that too, it was/is not a small amount of people that expressed those thoughts, was/is not a small amount that agreed with those sentiments.
If the real goal is to be able to play on legit servers drawing a line in the sand over a reasonable sub amount makes you question how many truly wanted to pay anything at all. Course to head you off, what is 'reasonable' is certainly subjective, but that does not change my point as people would have still complained if it was cheaper, what seems to bother people is the hated live players playing at all, since they think that all of them are jsut waiting to ruin it for everyone else.
11/02/2018 11:35 PMPosted by DiavaloI'll happily pay it if it's the real experience.
This game requires servers - servers require upkeep.
Upkeep = money.
I don't think the pricing model is unreasonable whatsoever considering Blizzard are offering both Retail and Classic in one price.
This ^ #worthit
11/03/2018 04:16 PMPosted by Egologic11/02/2018 11:35 PMPosted by DiavaloI'll happily pay it if it's the real experience.
This game requires servers - servers require upkeep.
Upkeep = money.
I don't think the pricing model is unreasonable whatsoever considering Blizzard are offering both Retail and Classic in one price.
This ^ #worthit
What part of "don't want to play retail" don't you people understand? Retail is garbage.
Has been garbage.
Cata was the last straw for me because I enjoyed the vanilla experience so much.
But if you prefer, we can break down the monies.
I paid the box price for vanilla.
Just like, I paid the box price for many other games that are constantly online. Some with regular updates (GW2)
Once classic is released and the bugs are fixed, it will get no more updates.
(Low overhead)
This makes blizzard not just a revenue based corporation (their other tactics display this)
It makes them visably greedy. THey are fleecing a specific market.
Its shady af.
I do not and will not pay for retail. Its crap and I don't support crap.
I think the price is fine.
11/03/2018 04:33 PMPosted by SltI think the price is fine.
Of course you do. You're already subbed and are getting a free game.
then don't....
11/03/2018 04:32 PMPosted by Hexagon11/03/2018 04:16 PMPosted by Egologic...
This ^ #worthit
What part of "don't want to play retail" don't you people understand? Retail is garbage.
Has been garbage.
Cata was the last straw for me because I enjoyed the vanilla experience so much.
But if you prefer, we can break down the monies.
I paid the box price for vanilla.
Just like, I paid the box price for many other games that are constantly online. Some with regular updates (GW2)
Once classic is released and the bugs are fixed, it will get no more updates.
(Low overhead)
This makes blizzard not just a revenue based corporation (their other tactics display this)
It makes them visably greedy. THey are fleecing a specific market.
Its shady af.
I do not and will not pay for retail. Its crap and I don't support crap.
You don't have any control what they do with your money once you give it to them, so no matter how you feel about either product, your money could be used for one you don't like.
11/03/2018 04:43 PMPosted by Hexagon11/03/2018 04:33 PMPosted by SltI think the price is fine.
Of course you do. You're already subbed and are getting a free game.
Ok so what if I un subbed for a day then re subbed would it be ok then? If I stop pay my sub I can longer play, so not free, but once i pay that sub I get to play.
Yes. Yes it is.11/02/2018 03:27 PMPosted by YazfizbashIs this real?
11/02/2018 03:29 PMPosted by JoynalI wouldn't have any problem paying $15 a month for Classic.
I refuse to pay $15 a month for the current retail game and since I have to pay for the current retail game in order to play Classic, I won't be playing Classic.
That's so incredibly stupid.
Option A: You buy Classic separately, money goes to Blizz, Blizz uses money for Retail.
Option B: You get both in one sub, Blizz uses money for Retail.
Either way, the money is going to Blizz and therefore Retail.
Get a job
Most of the sheeple that think this is a fair price are already subbed and enjoy the current, disastrous version that is retail. Classic is just icing on the cake for them. For the rest who were actively waiting for classic, not so much. Long story short they won't be adding many new, separate subcriptions for a reasonable price but retaining their base customers by giving them a freebie. Most of us who will never touch retail were even willing to pay up to half the sub price of retail for a shot at a museum piece, but yeah 180 a year does kill any and all motivation for that.Man, I just love assumptions that couldn't be farther from the truth! LOL
11/02/2018 05:35 PMPosted by RansackThis is actually kind of a deal breaker for me.
You would think the objective would be to spark curiosity for the modern version.
Nope.
Blizzard doesn't know what they have here. They could make realms for specific expacs and charge accordingly.
2.50 a month for Vanilla
+
2.50 for Burning crusade
+ wrath and so on.
I'm not paying for Vanilla again. I paid my dues with that. Above and beyond for that matter. When I played during vanilla, I brought friends with me.
Not doing that again.
Let alone a bastard version of it.
Sharding? Really?
I left the game for the constant changes. Blizzard doesn't add, they alter.
Sure there are those that say $15.00 a month isn't anything.
No not really. But we live in a different time.
Netflix+Hulu+HBO+....you get the point.
Its a shame really. I have been watching vanilla videos getting hyped.
Private servers, no matter how often they get shut down, are worth the price of free.
The entitlement needs to stop. You guys have been playing on private servers for free forever, demanding and whining to Blizz about them making a legacy option, then they do, and it's not free, so you complain more.
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I'm not sure you understand how a market economy works.
So you are going to tell me that they all quit for the same reasons? Come on now, you just want any sub loss or gain to solely be because of what issue or favorite feature.
Just as much as you are going to continually imply that we all were willing to pay $30 a month even though it was maybe a handful of people including trolls posting such.
You are a flaming hypocritical troll.
11/03/2018 04:32 PMPosted by Hexagon11/03/2018 04:16 PMPosted by Egologic...
This ^ #worthit
What part of "don't want to play retail" don't you people understand? Retail is garbage.
Has been garbage.
Cata was the last straw for me because I enjoyed the vanilla experience so much.
But if you prefer, we can break down the monies.
I paid the box price for vanilla.
Just like, I paid the box price for many other games that are constantly online. Some with regular updates (GW2)
Once classic is released and the bugs are fixed, it will get no more updates.
(Low overhead)
This makes blizzard not just a revenue based corporation (their other tactics display this)
It makes them visably greedy. THey are fleecing a specific market.
Its shady af.
I do not and will not pay for retail. Its crap and I don't support crap.
You do know if you get a seperate sub fee for Classic the money will still go to Retail. Blizzard is a company, their goal is to make profit, they are paying their employees to develop Classic, it can't be free.