I don't disagree with where you're going with this, but are you going to guarantee that they won't lose money because people switched from current WoW to classic?
What if they had to let people go because of this? Seems that this is the only way to guarantee that doesn't happen.
...Once per year, That's a free console system though. In ten years, that's an ounce of gold. Cost is relative, regardless of level of wealth. Some of the more wealthy from the village can be some of the biggest penny-pinchers.
Bottom line is you can't say that it's an inconsequential value because the value of money is subjective, regardless of class.
A valid point could possibly be: "why must I pay the same price as current WoW when it's expected to have no updates?"
Is that not valid?
No it's not valid. This is what people wanted and fought 10 years for. People even said they would pay 30 dollars a month for it. They wanted classic, they have been fighting tooth and nail to get classic as classic as possible, and that staticness was always going to be a thing.
Good for those people. I'm not them.
I'm genuinely flabbergasted at the outrage here. This is a pretty typical pricing setup for this sort of thing. Back in the day, you didn't pay separately for City of Heroes vs. City of Villains. One sub covered both. SoE has a bunch of MMO's that you can access with one sub fee. Having access to something extra on the account, even if you're choosing not to use that access, should not be a problem.
Back in the day, my husband signed up for the annual pass. He wanted Tyrael's charger. He might have been interested in MoP beta access, I don't remember. He was not the slightest bit interested in D3. He has never played it once in the past six+ years that D3 has been out. But it doesn't upset him that he has D3 on his account. He just doesn't care about it and doesn't play it. You can just not care about BfA and future expansions while accessing the content you do want.
They already don't report WoW's subs separately from other revenue streams anymore. I don't know why you think they'd be reporting Classic vs. BfA separately to the shareholders. The shareholders don't give a crap. A lot of them probably don't even understand what these games are, let alone be able to differentiate between the versions. WoW isn't the only cash cow anymore and that's long affected how they've reported revenue streams compared to the days when WoW was the only game they'd released in years.
Yeah I think it's fine that classic is included in the base game subscription but not offering another way to pay for it separate is !@#$ing retarded. They just want to bump up wow subs and show the activision bois how good they are doing.
$15 is ridiculously cheap. Anyone who thinks it's a lot needs help
The $15 isn't the problem.
The problem is not an authentic vanilla server that matches the old game.
$15 is ridiculously cheap. Anyone who thinks it's a lot needs help
The $15 isn't the problem.
The problem is not an authentic vanilla server that matches the old game.
1. It is a lot. By itself? No.
But I have bills in addition to entertainment outlets. HBO, HULU, Amazon Prime, and Netflix. This adds up.
2. I have no desire to play the current game. In fact, after cata before the teddy bear picnic, I left. I played a lot until then @ 15 a month. Its absurd to assume it's still worth the same price. I want charged for vanilla, not game in its current form.
Although $180 isn't very much to those already suckered into paying a current sub, (and lets be honest, most of you who say "bye" are already paying for this garbage now), 180 can be used elsewhere. Thats not being cheap, its being an adult.
Something to put into perspective is that Guild Wars 2 is still up and running without a monthly charge.
If you're into letting corporations taking advantage of you then thats your thing. Personally I'd rather buy performance upgrades for my vehicle and 180 is a chunk of that instead of spending it on a 15 year old game with hardly any overhead.
11/03/2018 03:39 AMPosted by
Sulakin
11/02/2018 04:45 PMPosted by
Zenerte
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Where does this sense of entitlement come from?
You are paying $15 for classic. With the option to play retail should you want to, no hassle. It's perfect.
In your fictional wishful scenario, the $15 a month you'd be spending STILL goes to Blizzard. The same Blizzard who admitted their mistake and is still releasing classic for all of us.
If you really don't want to support Blizzard, please never play classic and stay on your free vanilla private servers forever with your kind.
There won't be any of those. Once blizzard releases classic they will go after all the private servers and have a much stronger legal argument as well.
I personally hope they suit the lot of the thieving mungrels.
I love the BFA players who pearl clutch abot PS giving vanilla for free when they themselves are about to get classic. For free..
Complaining about $15 in 2018. LUL
11/03/2018 06:39 AMPosted by
Hexagon
$15 is ridiculously cheap. Anyone who thinks it's a lot needs help
The $15 isn't the problem.
The problem is not an authentic vanilla server that matches the old game.
1. It is a lot. By itself? No.
But I have bills in addition to entertainment outlets. HBO, HULU, Amazon Prime, and Netflix. This adds up.
2. I have no desire to play the current game. In fact, after cata before the teddy bear picnic, I left. I played a lot until then @ 15 a month. Its absurd to assume it's still worth the same price. I want charged for vanilla, not game in its current form.
Although $180 isn't very much to those already suckered into paying a current sub, (and lets be honest, most of you who say "bye" are already paying for this garbage now), 180 can be used elsewhere. Thats not being cheap, its being an adult.
Something to put into perspective is that Guild Wars 2 is still up and running without a monthly charge.
If you're into letting corporations taking advantage of you then thats your thing. Personally I'd rather buy performance upgrades for my vehicle and 180 is a chunk of that instead of spending it on a 15 year old game with hardly any overhead.
Worth is relative. If you don't think it is "'worth it", stop whining about it and go spend your money on something you enjoy. Many people obviously think it is worth it, and therefore it is.
You speak of perspective...perhaps you should try to locate your own before philosophizing about it...
I dont mind paying 15/mo for classic.
I'm not paying 15/mo if there will be sharding.
Complaining about $15 in 2018LUL
Getting vanilla for free on top of your current sub then complaining about players wanting reduced sub rate for classic only, omegalul.
This reminds me of when 2 children are playing and child a has multiple toys. Suddenly child b takes interest in a toy child A has no attention on. Child A reacts with a temper tantrum and puts a stranglehold on said toy. Retail players are Child A.
If $15/mo isn't a negligible amount of money for you, you probably shouldn't be playing a time consuming game like vanilla wow in the first place.
If it is a negligible amount of money and you just don't want to spend it because you don't think enough of the game to let go of a miniscule portion of your spending money, then you don't love the game enough to get any enjoyment out of vannilla wow in the first place.
then go back to your crappy private servers ya cheap skate
11/03/2018 06:57 AMPosted by
Gattz
Complaining about $15 in 2018LUL
Getting vanilla for free on top of your current sub then complaining about players wanting reduced sub rate for classic only, omegalul.
This reminds me of when 2 children are playing and child a has multiple toys. Suddenly child b takes interest in a toy child A has no attention on. Child A reacts with a temper tantrum and puts a stranglehold on said toy. Retail players are Child A.
More like a parent takes 2 kids to a toy store. Kid A plays with candyland and is clearly entertained. Kid B looks longingly at a chess set, having played it in the past and wanting to play it once more as it was then. Parent picks up both toys, smiles, and gives both to kid A.
11/03/2018 07:01 AMPosted by
Evani
then go back to your crappy private servers ya cheap skate
Retail player responses are only proving our point in spades. There needs to be a paywall for dedicated fans.
11/03/2018 07:01 AMPosted by
Evani
then go back to your crappy private servers ya cheap skate
Ah the sweet irony of someone getting something for free looking down on others getting something for free.
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Getting vanilla for free on top of your current sub then complaining about players wanting reduced sub rate for classic only, omegalul.
This reminds me of when 2 children are playing and child a has multiple toys. Suddenly child b takes interest in a toy child A has no attention on. Child A reacts with a temper tantrum and puts a stranglehold on said toy. Retail players are Child A.
More like a parent takes 2 kids to a toy store. Kid A plays with candyland and is clearly entertained. Kid B looks longingly at a chess set, having played it in the past and wanting to play it once more as it was then. Parent picks up both toys, smiles, and gives both to kid A.
That's a pretty funny analogy that hits the mark. Blizzard decided to throw everything to the current subscriber base rather than look at untapped markets.
Oh wait, my mistake they're looking into mobile markets. RIP Diablo.
$15 for both Classic and Current WoW? Why are we complaining? Oh right because people didn't want Classic, they wanted a free game.
This thread is a textbook example of how misery loves company.
Notice those that are already paying monthly are the most hostile and negative here.
"SHut up and pay".
Ironically, they are getting the game for free.
Again, Guild wars 2 is still up and running without a monthly cost.