1.14.4 Doesn't Matter Without Fresh

That is not true. Transfers to Skyfury and Angerforge (the Fresh servers) were opened 90 days after they were created. According to the community, they were both ruined weeks before server transfers kicked in.

It doesn’t ‘bother’ me, but I feel like you’re missing my point. I understand all the reasons why people want Fresh. I’m just pointing out that - as a community - we have demonstrated that wholesale Fresh does not work. The spirit of Fresh is so fleeting that the regularity with which servers would need to be reset/created is unreasonably short.

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“90” days is not anything of meaning. 3 months is nothing at all. Some people may take that entire time just to get 80. Too many widely different variables at play.

Fresh “working” or “not working” is opinionated only. There are no verifiable sources or data that point to “correctness”

Fresh servers are not “supposed” to last forever. They’re supposed to be fun.

Era is a static server, and is more like “the sims” if you will. It’s own ecosystem. It doesn’t provide what fresh does. They’re 2 entirely different scenarios

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17 days to be exact. That’s how long the F R E S H lasts. Spinning out more and more servers to satisfy such a fairweather group, that’s ready to dump their realm in less than a month’s time, is an exercise in futility.

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“17 days” is something this character made up.

People cleared naxx on som. That wasn’t “17 days”

Despitebeing is a troll

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I’m not seeing the correlation to the pvp updates and gold? Also, if copper ore is worth several gold, you can literally start making gold from the get go from ANY character on either faction if this is the case.

That being said, the added gold certainly does inflate items, but it also means making gold is a bit easier since you’re able to farm equitably for similar materials to sell.

Not saying that’s a good thing, but this kind of inflation is in no way similar to real life inflation. By your explanation, you can walk out into Elwynn and start making gold off the bat.

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Ignore that foolishness and move on, that’s it. If they really want to play they will. Going to add, it was an only handful of people, it’s not like there was a big movement for that.

Nothing has been proven at all. You are making comparisons to an expansion, while we are asking for vanilla. There hasn’t been a new vanilla server (fresh) launched since the original. You don’t have that data, and comparing it to fresh wrath is meaningless imo.

Indeed. Ignore all freshers.

SoM was a proven dud.

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I dunno.
Thought it was pretty fresh myself.
Hope the new season can be that too for those looking for a reboot.

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Anytime the players are begging the devs to terminate their own realms, I view it as a failure. Mind you, these were the SoM participants that stuck through to the very end.

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Blizz has sent out multiple surveys in the time since Classic launched and they have further data in the form of player metrics and forum/social media feedback.

Blizz said they would keep Era servers open forever even if there was only “tens of people” were playing on them. The overwhelming consensus and observable trends on the matter showed they were going to have do just that, only a couple of years after its launch which was solely predicated on everyone supposedly loving Classic.

Bottom line is there is no fresh in the future save HC and maybe SoM2 and its not Blizzards fault one bit.

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I don’t know which orifice you were painfully forced out of, but I can see your love for being treated as such like your so called PhReSh toons on its realms.

Classic Era is the way to go and is the future.

PhReSh realms as proven over and over again just die off, and should be just scrapped.

Despitebeing is 100% correct.

Is it the future? Endless spawning bots at dire maul

Players concerned that everyone is going to be in r14 and naxx gear

Players asking for quarterly gold resets.

You making pvp videos showcasing your lack of keybinds and average play at best

Era is a good channel. But it is not the channel for everyone

From what I hear you barely play anymore.

#MilkDoesNotStayFreshForever
#NeitherDoPhreShRealms

Neither does era realms. That’s why you have players demanding gold resets now.

Wow isn’t built to be runescape

Edit: go ahead. Spit it out. Shouldn’t take this long

I might add you have major alliance guilds transferring off of Whitemane to a pve server because they can’t take the heat in BRM. Goes to show you they don’t play wow, they play era to collect gear. Isn’t that what half the wrath players play wrath for? Nothing more.

Its funny how someone lacking keybinds can own someone that plays a class that can literally one shot by pressing one button.

I see you are good with your mouth and your fingers. It would be a shame if someone put a bounty on you and your guild during your raid times :face_with_hand_over_mouth: but really, wcyd?

From what im seeing Era had a longer lifespan than your so called phReSh. Only takes 17 days for PhReSh snowflakes and gold farmers to ruin the economy no ty.

You are “owning” players who are not what I consider “good” at the game.

I’ve seen your game play. It’s a running meme in pvp discords.

Put a “bounty” on my head. I only play era during wsg week. I have been on ptr otherwise. I’m also horde, you know the faction that’s making all of your alliance guilds transfer to Mankrik

Eras “lifespan” or rather “boom” was when everyone realized wrath was terrible. You don’t think over 50% of the playerbase is going to leave for som2?

Make sure your “bounty” notes that I’ll be in wsg with my team. Good luck

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You know what else is a meme? Advocating for PhReSh on a 60 orc female shaman.

I think even a life form afflicted with stage 4 cancer would have a longer lifespan than PhResH.

Cool response. Addressed nothing of what I said.

You can’t make a coherent response, as it is all fueled by emotion.

What’s good though, you want to put a bounty on my head. You can instead make a wsg team and beat mine. We can schedule this ahead of time and record it!

Coming from you? My god. This is gold. I wasnt the one who charge my posts with emotion.

It is also entertaining to watch your instantaenous typing to my reply seconds after my post.:face_with_hand_over_mouth:

You know, if pvp ranking was decided by the amount of troll posts on these forums i think would have hit Grand Marshal in less than 24 hours, even with the new ranking system. I believe you deserve this heartfelt compliment. :wine_glass:

Sure, noted.

You will never make a competent wsg team and beat me.

And

Your alliance guilds will continue to transfer off Whitemane because they’re getting killed.

Sucks to suck.