10.0 Remove DPS externals and PI

I see no point to engage with you. I stated my reasoning for using an alt, I value privacy in all things as I am very introverted and hate the concept of someone tracking be down in game. I will no longer reply to you, as I see you have no interest in the topic at hand, and instead have focused your attention on a profile.

That’s certainly one solution can’t lie and I’d be down for it. However the demo nerf did put some of my annoyance towards blizz.

From everything I could see, demo was one of the top single target specs of the tier, but it was not far and beyond the others until they get PI.

So that nerf comes out to demonic consumption which brings demo more in line with the other specs, on the assumption the lock gets PI…

If blizz wants external buffs in the game I can live with it. The problem starts when balancing now assumes you will get them.

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So I have a follow up question for you then. If that’s the reason you don’t like PI, does that mean you also don’t like Arcane Intellect? If not, what’s the crucial difference?

I would raise another idea, what if PI stole 25% of the haste from the player they cast it on, and it turned out to be an overall DPS increase for the raid? Would you approve of the spell then? How would you feel to be the person they targeted every raid? Would it change your enjoyment of the content?

I’m not OP but everyone gets AI, PI only goes to one person…

No it’s a group wide buff, if Pi was a group wide hero I would have no problem with it personally. But I think it would be too powerful then and cause another locked raid slot alongside the other buffs that are already required for M.

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Arcane intellect doesn’t cost the mage any dps to cast on someone else and since is a flat damage buff over the course of the fight everyone receives basically the same improvement.

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Only groups with a Mage get Arcane Intellect. The reason that’s relevant is because when WarcraftLogs shows you your parse it’s not comparing you against your group members, it’s comparing you to every other player of your spec. Some of whom won’t have Arcane Intellect. So it’s not a fair competition.

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Please remove lifegrip. This ability can and is being used to raise DPS of raiders and the priest just has to suffer in silence while burning a GCD. Pray for our wheelchairs who do the Light’s work. :pray:

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Okay that’s fair. So does that mean one solution would be for PI to affect the Priest as well as their target similar to the way Innervate does?

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This point is true, and was once handled by scrolls that could be used to replace the buffs given by classes a system I liked as it reduced the number of locked out raid spots down. I would like to see scrolls return.

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Fair actually. Kinda just assumed everyone had a mage.

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Please do not. My tank is a blood DK and we need to grip him to move him a lot as blizzard did not grease his wheelchair this pack.

Your own dps doesn’t matter. I could do 30k on a fight and it means nothing if everyone else is only pulling 10k. It’s a group effort, stop being selfish.

Let’s not get to hasty…
I’ve been taking dark pact over burning rush in recent times, so my squidward walking noises have become part of my signature charm.

But sometimes that means the priest has to whip out the child monkey leash for me.

Never do this. I will never not life grip dps into mechanics.

Sure, but tbh I think the simplest answer is just to turn off the casting option for spriest or, hell, even give us a themed version of the spell so we don’t glow yellow when it’s active.

Giving up PI as shadow sucks and it makes more sense as a normal cd anyway.

Warlock to priest:

Your dps doesn’t matter, so shut up and give me your dps cooldown. Stop being selfish.

Lot easier to hold that stance when you’re the one taking my cooldown.

Oh, I wish I had PI. When my guy goes shadow, he keeps it.

And that’s fine given the more casual nature of my current guild, at least until there’s a dps check. You’re making this a far bigger issue than it actually is.

I feel like this is an indictment of the culture in your guild more than an issue with the ability.

Priest already have a legendary that does that.

That’s true but taking that legendary comes at the expense of taking a different legendary that might represent a larger increase to their damage. The goal of the proposal was to remove the opportunity cost of casting PI on someone else, not to substitute it with a different opportunity cost.

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