God I hate when people make this comment, so much.
Classes will be broken and unbalanced regardless of another class coming out. This is a constant issue that is constantly worked on.
With your logic, we should have one class… one… class. Because it’d be so balanced, right?
These are the three that you see because the suggestions on these forums are incredibly limited in scope and originality. If we traverse the multiverse, let the new class reflect that. If we were going to get a tinker it should have come out with BfA, if we were going to get a Necromancer it should have been a part of SL. So, Blizzard are either done introducing new classes, or it isn’t coming out any time soon, meaning years.
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Necromancer would be a ranged pet class. Itd be like a mix between warlock and But I do agree its too close to both!
My point in saying these 2 was that these 2 classes are more likely to appear than Tinker or Bard lol
We dont want classes to be more balanced… we want them to be better designed
huge difference buddy. class design since Legion has been extremely underwhelming.
Imagine if you told someone in Legion that by the end of the following expansion that they could play as short fox-people or cyborg gnomes. They would have vehemently denied all possibility like you are with bards right now.
Self-buffing is entirely different from significantly supporting your party with buffs.
Think of how different the game would be if, say, Fury Warriors depended on Shamans to give them their Enrages. Or if Fire Magi needed Inner Fire from Priests to get their Combustion rolling. That’s the type of support that a Bard class would require. Anything less would be a mockery. And WoW just isn’t that game. That decision was made early on.
On classes I’d be totally down with Tinker and Bard. I think those would be great additions to the game.
I’d like to see more neutral classes, like the Pandaren are. I think another sect of Goblin, Sethrak, and even Vrykul would make great candidates. It’d just be nice to see more diversity of races in the game at the very least. We know that they’ve been making original skeletons for a bunch of races now, and I think that’ll lend very well towards making new races available for play.
Why would they make new classes?
People are absolutely right when they say that a support class doesn’t fit in wow, but that is because all classes are a part of a support class. They buff each other, cleanse each other, heal each other, and apply debuffs onto enemies.
Bard can be another type of dps/healer class that does the primary role and can bring some support to the group like any other class. A bard isn’t defined in what it does in WoW yet, that’s why it is a good idea for a class.
EZ idea for bard raid buff: a mastery buff. It’s thematic as a bard’s song would exaggerate the skill (aka mastery) of those they are praising. Possibly could have a button for supercharging said buff at pre-pull (unavailable in combat, essentially hyping the group up for the fight) of an encounter providing a time-warp of a different stat.
Yes, it would be just as required as a mage would be. A traditional bard is about supporting your party with buffs, but since when does WoW do anything in the traditional manner. Wood elves are Night elves, Necromancers are Death Knights, Orcs aren’t the embodiment of irredeemable evil. WoW doesn’t follow strict fantasy troupes.
And a Necromancer could be a healer with no pets with “10 minutes to find a way for it to work.” But you’d entirely be missing the point of having a Necromancer class.
Bards are integrally a support class. WoW does not have a support role. You could create something that hits people with a lute and yells loudly, but a bard, it is not. It’s entirely pointless to attempt to shoehorn the class in when it is completely contrary to WoW’s design.
At best, you have a mockery of the class.
But there are games where necromancers don’t summon and are healers…They are well liked.
LOL not at all. Adding in goofy allied races (reskins) is no where near the same as adding in a f******* bard class. This isnt final fantasy Bard has NO place in wow.
Necromancer, tinker, bombardier, cultist
You can call it a Necromancer. But you’re entirely missing the core fantasy. Or, like me, you find it interesting to try to build characters that are a little contrary to the typical core fantasy.
Are you that obsessed with the name to the point you’re completely uninterested in the gameplay? If equipping the Arcanite Ripper on an Arms Warrior changed the name of the class to “Bard,” would you be sated? Because that’s essentially what you’re asking for.
As much as I’d love to have a necrolyte class, I wouldn’t want to put up with all the abilities they’d steal from unholy.
I think Bard is the next logical choice, if blizz is following in the footsteps of dnd.
Everybody wants to imagine bards as these scummy loot players but all I imagine is Dethklok in game summoning a Lake troll.
I have, and always will, support the idea of a “Dragon Class” which is just a combination of Druids and DH Metamorphosis but you turn into a Dragon. I need.
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The only way it would work is if they went full ETC with it. But again, that would be a true shark-jumping moment.
Bard essentially use an instrument as a conduit to cast spells. That’s it. What those spells do is up to the context of the world’s magic. If WoW devs decide that bards are the new Void class or go all Brutal Legend then it would still fit. Bards aren’t defined in WoW and such an undefined identity is a do-what-you-want pass to the developers.
Then why use Bard at all if it’s entirely undefined in the WarCraft universe and its most well-defined mode of operation is contrary to the way the game has been structured?
Why not go with literally anything else? Especially with a clean slate? Why use the word “Bard” if there is no possibility or intent to use the connotations that word has?
The whole point would be to give it definition inside the warcraft universe. What connotations does the word bard have? Just because DnD and FFXIV use it as a support/healer doesn’t mean WoW has to. Such identities are easily redefined. Less focus on what has been and more on what could be. Bards have been a class idea that wouldn’t mesh well with WoW’s role structure, but with a few twists they could be a fun and engaging breath of fresh air to the game.
There is no rule stating that a bard is confined to a specific type of skills for a specific role. If that were the case then each spec in WoW would only have one role they could play, whichever their class has a history of in other games.
Tough luck Fury and Arms warriors, your class can only tank now, bye bye shadow priest, your a healer now. That is the priest’s role after all.
Why not do something completely original, then? Or flesh out something that already exists?
Why take on the baggage of the term? What advantage is there if nothing about the class is defined by its name?